Cardinal O'Brien resigns: Good Riddance

[Svartalf]

What'(s unholesome in the ol' virga per rectum aut per oremm way?

[Jason]

Was this strictly consensual sex between two adults? If so, what's the big problem?

[klr]

Was this strictly consensual sex between two adults? If so, what's the big problem?

A cardinal and a priest? It's kind of frowned upon in the RC church.

[Svartalf]

More so than a clergy man and a nun, a parishioner, or a choirboy?

[Jason]

Was this strictly consensual sex between two adults? If so, what's the big problem?

A cardinal and a priest? It's kind of frowned upon in the RC church.

Well yeah, but that's only of concern to Roman Catholics and other homophobes.

[klr]

More so than a clergy man and a nun, a parishioner, or a choirboy?

Clergy man and nun = heterosexual, not "as bad", and (in the RC world), nuns are not as important as priests.

Kids of course used not to matter, but that has changed now.

Lay women? Let's just say there's a lot more of that happening than we get to hear about. I'd say the RC hierarchy is inclined to turn a blind eye some of the time. Priests are already in very short supply in many countries..

[Svartalf]

Lay women? who said "wo"? I said "parishioner".

[klr]

Lay women? who said "wo"?

Oh yes, I see what you mean. Well, I suspect there's a fair bit of lay man action as well. I'm not sure what the hierarchy makes of that TBH.

[JimC]

Was this strictly consensual sex between two adults? If so, what's the big problem?

That he was a whited sepulchre...

(thus I prove that the devil can indeed quote scripture...)

[klr]

Was this strictly consensual sex between two adults? If so, what's the big problem?

That he was a whited sepulchre...

(thus I prove that the devil can indeed quote scripture...)

[Coito ergo sum]

Was this strictly consensual sex between two adults? If so, what's the big problem?

Violation of an oath.
Blatant hypocrisy, coming from a jackass who condemns homosexuals to hell, etc.
In the seminary, it would be more like teacher student sex, so it has some arguable ethical implications -- i.e. - the implication that if the seminarians didn't engage with him that they might suffer in their evaluations and advancement.

And, he's a lying ass priest, and this is just another blatant falsehood and deception atop the rest. Their whole occupation is a lie. They are worse than snake oil salesmen, and worse than con artists, flimflam men, and three-card monte dealers. They play on the fears and superstitions of gullible people.

[ronmcd]

Was this strictly consensual sex between two adults? If so, what's the big problem?

Staggering levels of hypocrisy, that's the problem. He wasn't named "Bigot of the Year" last year by gay rights charity Stonewall for nothing.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Was this strictly consensual sex between two adults? If so, what's the big problem?

Staggering levels of hypocrisy, that's the problem. He wasn't named "Bigot of the Year" last year by gay rights charity Stonewall for nothing.

Seriously. The two-faced nature of an organization that condemns "deviant sex" while meeting or exceeding that level of "deviance" covertly is obvious.

[Coito ergo sum]

Priests -- doing nothing, but pretending to do something --

Whenever I find myself in a Catholic Church, I always watch the activities of the priests closely. If you watch them as people are filing in and stuff, there will be church organ music playing, and the priests and such will be walking around "doing things" -- folding and unfolding cloths, wiping some sort of goblet, moving some sort of relicky looking thing, etc. But, when you actually look at what they're doing, it's not really anything. I think it's just designed to present the image that they are "preparing" something very sacred and holy. But really they are just folding and unfolding cloths and moving goblets.

The pageantry is all important -- they dress in highly symbolic clothing - deceptive clothing. Did you ever see the priests with their high-backed capes on -- i raises the back of the neck of their robes several inches. So, if they turn around and face away from the congregation, and then bow their head, their head disappears below the high backed-neck. It gives the illusion of having bowed one's head lower than one actually bows it.





It's a uniform, designed to have an impact.

And, the rituals - incense waiving, all sorts of stuff, robes, chants, and all that. If we werent' so used to it, we'd think it a cult.

[Clinton Huxley]

You need flummery to hide the flimsiness.