What the hell is going on? This must be the longest bail hearing in history. Is there a rep from the Guinness Book of Records around?
Half an hour should have done it. There's no doubt whatsoever that he's guilty of at least manslaughter, but in reality, murder.
Even if he genuinely DID think it was a burglar, he's still deliberately shot to kill.
He can't claim his life was in danger from a locked door.
So he shouldn't get bail, full stop. There is NO prospect of him walking free from a trial, it's just a question of what he actually gets convicted of.
Why allow bail, when he is sure to go to prison anyway? Bail is for people who MIGHT be innocent.
His only chance of ending up free is if he's sprung from jail.
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Re: Oscar Pistorius arrested for shooting his girlfriend
The plot thickeneth even further:
Oscar Pistorius case: Top detective brought in
South Africa's top detective is to take over the Oscar Pistorius inquiry amid attempted murder accusations against current lead officer Hilton Botha.
Detective Botha was removed pending the result of an investigation into seven counts of attempted murder.
National police commissioner Mangwashi Phiyega announced the change after a third day of testimony at Mr Pistorius's bail hearing.
... http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-21536888
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Only an incompetent detective would be charged with attempted murder.
A competent one would be successful at every attempt at murder they made.
So, it seems sensible to remove him...
A competent one would be successful at every attempt at murder they made.
So, it seems sensible to remove him...
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This is in Sth Africa, remember. SA castle laws are more like (if not worse) than the US laws, if I'm not mistaken. Home invasion is a serious problem there (home owners often get murdered in the invasion), and there's a hell of a lot of armed home owners there. Shoot outs are pretty normal in some situations in SA.
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Isn't Dries a lawyer in South Africa?
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-22/p ... ur/4534876
He's out on bail. Now let's see if he legs it..
Oh, wait..
He's out on bail. Now let's see if he legs it..
Oh, wait..
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Watch him jump bail.Faithfree wrote:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-22/p ... ur/4534876
He's out on bail. Now let's see if he legs it..
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At first I thought that Oscar Pistorius must have a screw loose.
Then I realised, if he had a screw loose, he'd fall over.
Then he'd be off his rockers.
Then I realised, if he had a screw loose, he'd fall over.
Then he'd be off his rockers.
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Listening to some of the judges reasons, it seems he had little choice.
From what he laid out, the strength of the case against him seems not to matter. It's more, "will he turn up?", than "did he do it?".
It's interesting that the cop who WAS leading the investigation is charged with something so remarkably similar. Who in their right mind would put him in charge of the case? He apparently, with other cops, shot at a car that failed to stop. I don't know if his defence wil be that he feared for his life, like Pistorius's. Or maybe, they will claim that they were shooting at the tyres. That's what I'd say. It may actually be what happened. But anyway, it's so similar, it's ludicrous.
The judge did point to some remarkable things missing in the evidence. Firstly, why didn't Pistorius know that she wasn't in the bed, when he grabbed his gun, which was kept by the bed?
Secondly, why didn't he shout at the person in the toilet to identify themselves, before opening fire?
And no mention of what I would like to know, which is what did Pistorius say when he presumably phoned for police and ambulances after the shooting. And what did he say happened, when the police and ambulance people got there.
Not a word about that from either side.
From what he laid out, the strength of the case against him seems not to matter. It's more, "will he turn up?", than "did he do it?".
It's interesting that the cop who WAS leading the investigation is charged with something so remarkably similar. Who in their right mind would put him in charge of the case? He apparently, with other cops, shot at a car that failed to stop. I don't know if his defence wil be that he feared for his life, like Pistorius's. Or maybe, they will claim that they were shooting at the tyres. That's what I'd say. It may actually be what happened. But anyway, it's so similar, it's ludicrous.
The judge did point to some remarkable things missing in the evidence. Firstly, why didn't Pistorius know that she wasn't in the bed, when he grabbed his gun, which was kept by the bed?
Secondly, why didn't he shout at the person in the toilet to identify themselves, before opening fire?
And no mention of what I would like to know, which is what did Pistorius say when he presumably phoned for police and ambulances after the shooting. And what did he say happened, when the police and ambulance people got there.
Not a word about that from either side.
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I guess people like this don't kill themselves because they believe they'll get away with it.
But there are lots of assholes rotting in prisons for killing their girlfriends/wives/kids etc., wtf do they keep on living for?
But there are lots of assholes rotting in prisons for killing their girlfriends/wives/kids etc., wtf do they keep on living for?
Imagine that. I guess it's only coincidental that you'd already be the perfect citizen in the ideal world you're selling.
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Same reason I do. They prefer it to the alternative.Sean Hayden wrote:I guess people like this don't kill themselves because they believe they'll get away with it.
But there are lots of assholes rotting in prisons for killing their girlfriends/wives/kids etc., wtf do they keep on living for?
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-meh, maybe they don't have a choice
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He's out - and I don't mean of the closet.
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An excellent piece of thread necromancy...
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