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Re: Guns Used.....cont

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:54 pm

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Post by Gallstones » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:36 pm

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Seth wrote: Wrong. You falsely assume that all violent crimes that would be deterred or defended against by the use of a lawfully-carried firearm result in the victim being "shot or murdered, or otherwise seriously maimed."
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Your claim was "successful self defense". So you go on a long anecdote about someone using a shotgun to stop a crime that had nothing to do with self defense.

If you stick to your claim of successful self defense at 800,000 to 2.5 million cases per year, the story is very different. That inevitably means twice that number without guns who do not defend themselves and suffer the consequences. That does not happen. This has nothing to do with stopping robberies, or anything else. It has to do with failing to defend themselves. 1.6 million to 5 million people each year who fail to defend themselves. Failure to defend yourself means getting hurt or killed. If it did not mean that, then there was no self defense issue (which is what I claim).

And we do not see 1.6 million to 5 million people maimed or killed each year because they cannot defend themselves. So your claim is bullshit.

What we get instead is a whole bunch of gun nutters who are total wankers who claim to have used a gun to successfully defend themselves, when it was probably a pussy cat next door miaowing at the wrong time! "Run away, pussy cat, or I will shoot you."

When I was in college there was this rooster roosting in the tree outside my room. He'd start crowing at about 0300 and continue all night. The second night I went out and shot him.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:40 pm

Gallstones wrote:When I was in college there was this rooster roosting in the tree outside my room. He'd start crowing at about 0300 and continue all night. The second night I went out and shot him.
I didn't picture you as needing a gun to get some cock.
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Post by klr » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:48 pm

Gallstones wrote: ...

When I was in college there was this rooster roosting in the tree outside my room. He'd start crowing at about 0300 and continue all night. The second night I went out and shot him.
Now that's one way of dealing with a sleep-depriving nuisance. :stanley:

I on the other hand had to deal with some persistently noisy neighbours in an apartment downstairs from mine a few years ago. They pissed me off so much, it's probably just as well I didn't have a gun.
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Post by Blind groper » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:56 pm

klr wrote: Now that's one way of dealing with a sleep-depriving nuisance.
Probably a bit excessive.
I recently got rid of a rabbit that was making a nest under my deck. When I saw it nibbling grass nearby, I snuck up with a rock, which I threw. No more rabbit! A rooster would have been a much easier target.

However, that is one of the normal fallacies of gun lovers. They believe they have to use guns, when there are numerous other solutions which are less excessive and less damaging.
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Post by Gallstones » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:11 am

The goal was to make it be dead. What difference does it make if it was made dead with a rock or a bullet? Dead is dead and it crowed no more. You throw rocks. I'll shoot.
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Post by aspire1670 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:17 am

Gallstones wrote:The goal was to make it be dead. What difference does it make if it was made dead with a rock or a bullet? Dead is dead and it crowed no more. You throw rocks. I'll shootseek medical help.
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Post by Jason » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:32 am

Y'all are upset she used a gun to kill a cock instead of something apparently more acceptable, such as a pointy rock on the end of a stick. :hehe:

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Post by Gallstones » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:52 am

It was an AR-7. And boy am I unhappy with myself for having sold it.
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Post by Gallstones » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:54 am

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Post by aspire1670 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:11 am

Violet Elizabeth Gallstones wrote:It's all about meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and if you come between meeeeeeeeeeeee and myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy desires I'll shall scweam and scweam until I make myself sick.
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I bow to your superior knowledge of being a dumb shit and contributing nothing of worth. But that doesn't mean you aren't deserving of medical treatment to deal with your narcissistic personality disorder. And in the interests of public safety perhaps you should consider voluntarily surrendering your right to bear arms until such time as robust psychological testing becomes a requirement for owning a firearm?
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:32 am

Gallstones wrote:The goal was to make it be dead. What difference does it make if it was made dead with a rock or a bullet? Dead is dead and it crowed no more. You throw rocks. I'll shoot.
Graduated response. I have a BB gun that works fine for keeping hyper-aggressive strays out of my yard.
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