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Post by klr » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:48 pm

Gerald McGrew wrote:A libertarian advocating control over reproduction. Huh.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:20 pm

klr wrote:
Gerald McGrew wrote:A libertarian advocating control over reproduction. Huh.
Some irony in this truly there is :yoda:
You guys think he cares if he's coherent?
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Audley Strange wrote:Seth. You might want to update your copyright to 2013.
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Post by Seth » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:29 pm

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klr wrote:
Gerald McGrew wrote:A libertarian advocating control over reproduction. Huh.
Some irony in this truly there is :yoda:
You guys think he cares if he's coherent?
I'm not advocating eugenics, I'm merely pointing out its factual utility in terms of the continued advancement (or not) of the human race as a matter of intellectual debate and investigation.

From the Libertarian perspective, eugenics is self-effectuating because in a Libertarian society no one is compelled to support the genetically inferior or physically incapacitated or their progeny, they are required to support themselves without forcing others to help them survive, which puts natural selection back into the equation. This does not mean that Libertarians may not CHOOSE to provide such support out of empathy, sympathy, charity, altruism or rational self-interest, but, by way of example, they might condition their voluntary support for a genetically-defective person on an agreement that they not procreate or pass along their genetic defect to a new generation. That leaves the choice up to the individual whether they wish to go it alone and do as they please or be supported by others with charity but forgo having children by voluntary agreement, as is right and proper.
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Post by Blind groper » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:55 pm

Eugenics or similar is not needed.

Within 100 years, humanity will be using genetic techniques to ensure that each new generation is genetically superior to the previous. This will start out expensive, and limited to the wealthy, but like all such things, will drop in price till everyone can do it for their children. What parent, given the choice, would not want their kids to be smarter, better looking, more athletic, more healthy etc?
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Post by Jason » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:57 pm

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Post by Audley Strange » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:07 pm

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Audley Strange wrote:Seth. You might want to update your copyright to 2013.
Thanks for the tip. It's all copyrighted anyway, regardless of the note, but thanks.
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Post by JimC » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:15 am

Blind groper wrote:Eugenics or similar is not needed.

Within 100 years, humanity will be using genetic techniques to ensure that each new generation is genetically superior to the previous. This will start out expensive, and limited to the wealthy, but like all such things, will drop in price till everyone can do it for their children. What parent, given the choice, would not want their kids to be smarter, better looking, more athletic, more healthy etc?
Although, the OP, and Tyrannical's posts are over the top, I suspect there is a grain of truth. There has been a relaxation in selection pressures applied to H. sapiens, and individuals who would have most probably died before reproducing are now spreading their genes...

I include myself, with extreme myopia when younger... ;)

Perhaps genetic engineering in the future will alter the equation, but I won't hold my breath...
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Post by Tyrannical » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:47 am

My posts aren't (usually) over the top, it's just that I present uncomfortable truths. Life is unfair, even though we wish it wasn't. But wishing or pretending otherwise won't change it.
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Post by JimC » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:51 am

You are so far over the top you need a powerful telescope just to spot it...

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Post by Tyrannical » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:57 am

You know JimC, I think that you think that I'm more correct on these things than you'd like to admit. You just wish I was wrong, which is completely understandable.
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Post by JimC » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:05 am

The thing is, although I have myopia and probably many other features which may not have helped me deal with sabre toothed tigers, I deserve to reproduce because of my vast intelligence and bizarre appeal to females...
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Post by klr » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:26 am

JimC wrote:The thing is, although I have myopia and probably many other features which may not have helped me deal with sabre toothed tigers, I deserve to reproduce because of my vast intelligence and bizarre appeal to females...
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:16 am

Tyrannical wrote:My posts aren't (usually) over the top, it's just that I present uncomfortable truths. Life is unfair, even though we wish it wasn't. But wishing or pretending otherwise won't change it.
Rubbish. What's an uncomfortable "truth" that you have presented in this thread?
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Post by rainbow » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:46 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:My posts aren't (usually) over the top, it's just that I present uncomfortable truths. Life is unfair, even though we wish it wasn't. But wishing or pretending otherwise won't change it.
Rubbish. What's an uncomfortable "truth" that you have presented in this thread?
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