Obama's Marxist politics stink so badly...

[FBM]

http://stpeteforpeace.org/obama.html

This looks like a buttload of spin mixed with a few grains of truth to me. Any other onions?:

Among other things since becoming president, Barack Obama has:

20,000 Airstrikes in the President's First Term
Cause Death and Destruction From Iraq to Somalia.
Signed the NDAA into law - making it legal to assassinate Americans w/o charge or trial.
Initiated, and personally oversees a 'Secret Kill List'.
Waged war on Libya without congressional approval.
Started a covert, drone war in Yemen.
Escalated the proxy war in Somalia.
Escalated the CIA drone war in Pakistan.
Maintained a presence in Iraq even after "ending" the war.
Sharply escalated the war in Afghanistan.
Secretly deployed US special forces to 75 countries.
Sold $30 billion of weapons to the dictatorship in Saudi Arabia.
Signed an agreement for 7 military bases in Colombia.
Opened a military base in Chile.
Touted nuclear power, even after the disaster in Japan.
Opened up deepwater oil drilling, even after the BP disaster.
Did a TV commercial promoting "clean coal".
Defended body scans and pat-downs at airports.
Signed the Patriot Act extension into law.
Deported a modern-record 1.5 million immigrants.
Continued Bush's rendition program.

[Seth]

Marxism dead? Yeah, right...

Marxists Claim Bombing of U.S. Embassy in Turkey
By TIM ARANGO and SEBNEM ARSU
Published: February 2, 2013

ISTANBUL — A Marxist group with a history of political violence in Turkey claimed responsibility on Saturday for a suicide bombing at the American Embassy in Ankara the day before, releasing a statement calling the United States “the murderer of the peoples of the world.”

The statement, which also denounced American foreign policy, was released by the Revolutionary People’s Liberation Party-Front, and a translation was distributed by the SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors the communications of extremist groups. The message, which was posted on a Web site that has previously carried statements from the group, condemned Turkey for its cooperation with the United States and for its policy of supporting Syrian rebels fighting the government of President Bashar al-Assad.

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[Gawdzilla Sama]

Seen any Druids lately?

[Rum]

I'm not sure why I even bother responding to the loathsome individualist slurry that Seth posts. Any political system, it seems to me, that tries to set up a structure where the more vulnerable are protected and helped is Marxist and leaning towards totalitarianism in his book. In mine it is simply trying to be civilized.

Note to self: refrain from responding any further!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I'm not sure why I even bother responding to the loathsome individualist slurry that Seth posts. Any political system, it seems to me, that tries to set up a structure where the more vulnerable are protected and helped is Marxist and leaning towards totalitarianism in his book. In mine it is simply trying to be civilized.

Note to self: refrain from responding any further!

Oh, you're so Groucho sometimes.

[Seth]

I'm not sure why I even bother responding to the loathsome individualist slurry that Seth posts. Any political system, it seems to me, that tries to set up a structure where the more vulnerable are protected and helped is Marxist and leaning towards totalitarianism in his book. In mine it is simply trying to be civilized.

Note to self: refrain from responding any further!

Nope. As usual you're mendaciously mischaracterizing my position. Political systems that set up structures to protect the vulnerable are not inherently Marxist UNLESS they do so by forcibly seizing the labor and property of others against their will, as if everyone in the society is a chattel of the State and the State may therefore dispose of the individual, his labor and his property at the whims and caprices of the State or the collective.

If a government wants to acquire money to support the poor, it should become an advocate and spokesman for the poor and use its considerable resources to PERSUADE people to donate VOLUNTARILY to such efforts. Or, it should create a trust fund (a real one that Congress cannot raid) that EARNS money for the poor through the operations of the free market by investing that capital in the markets, to be funded through voluntary donations, government surpluses and cost-cutting.

Using the jackbooted thugs of collectivism to come and take my money at the muzzle of a machine gun so it can be given to some welfare leech who spends his days selling crack and making babies is hardly "civilized." It's pure tyranny of the majority terrorism and robbery.

[sandinista]

Marxism dead? Yeah, right...

Of course it's not "dead".

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Just impotent.

[sandinista]

Just impotent.

no, that's you.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I wrote your reply down before I posted that.

[sandinista]

I wrote your reply down before I posted that.

congrats

[JimC]

Marxism dead? Yeah, right...

Of course it's not "dead".

Aha!

In your own, separate deluded ways, you think it's still alive, in its original form!

Sure, Seth regards it as a threat, and you as the promise of a glorious future, but that that is simply a minor detail! The hidden red army awaits!

What is more important is pouring scorn on those who have seen that the emperor has no clothes, and that Marxism sensu strictu has gone the way of the dodo...

[Jason]

Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist party of Australia?

[JimC]

Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist party of Australia?

They wouldn't have me because I was too fucking cynical...

[rainbow]

I chose when I want to laugh at you. You and seeth in the same thread is too good to pass up.

throw you into the mix just to drop the collective IQ.

How low can you go?