Stop cultural 'pick-and-mix', warns minister

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Post by cronus » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:10 pm

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Stop cultural 'pick-and-mix', warns minister

A Home Office minister is to warn people who set up forced marriages and commit so-called "honour crimes" that there "cannot be a pick-and-mix approach" to living in the UK.

Jeremy Browne will also say that the genital mutilation of girls as young as five is "barbaric" and should be regarded as "child abuse".

About 20,000 girls a year are thought to be at risk from the practice.

The Lib Dem MP will also call for equal treatment of boys and girls in society.

Honour crimes involve violence committed by people who want to defend the reputation of their family or community.

Speaking at an event in the House of Lords, Mr Brown will argue that the UK's "emancipation revolution" should apply universally.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:09 pm

No no. An open society must allow repression, otherwise it is intolerant of the repressive subcultures. Not the white, European subcultures, of course -- there can be no discrimination there. Discrimination against gay white people in marriage is hateful. But, in a multicultural society the brown subcultures need to be able to repress and discriminate, otherwise we are being intolerant. So, discrimination against brown cultures that discriminate against gays and women, is itself hateful.

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Post by cronus » Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:30 pm

There is only one right way of seeing the world and it is five hundred years hence if it is at all. :coffee:
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Post by MrJonno » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:57 pm

It's very hard to prosecute a crime when the victims are so brainwashed that they don't even consider themselves to be a victim, so its hardly a trivially easy matter to deal with
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Post by cronus » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:05 pm

MrJonno wrote:It's very hard to prosecute a crime when the victims are so brainwashed that they don't even consider themselves to be a victim, so its hardly a trivially easy matter to deal with
At five years they should be removed for adoption if there is a risk of this medieval barbarism happening. Mothers-to-be in at risk communities should be vetted for 'embedded religious fuckwittery'. Easy enough to do at family clinics when they have other medical check ups...don't need to offer them a bacon butty just ask them a few simple questions.
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:22 pm

It's not 'pick and mix', it's following the laws of the land if they can't follow local custom, let them serve time and be exiled back to their own land, on pain of hanging if they return
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Post by Tyrannical » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:25 pm

Just acknowledge it was a mistake to ever let these foreign cultures to immigrate to Western nations, then take steps to encourage them to go back to countries where that behavior is acceptable. It's not worth the effort to try and change them when a swift boot to the ass is far simpler.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:28 pm

Tyrannical wrote:Just acknowledge it was a mistake to ever let these foreign cultures to immigrate to Western nations, then take steps to encourage them to go back to countries where that behavior is acceptable. It's not worth the effort to try and change them when a swift boot to the ass is far simpler.
I wonder how Native Americans would react to that.
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Post by Woodbutcher » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:19 pm

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Tyrannical wrote:Just acknowledge it was a mistake to ever let these foreign cultures to immigrate to Western nations, then take steps to encourage them to go back to countries where that behavior is acceptable. It's not worth the effort to try and change them when a swift boot to the ass is far simpler.
I wonder how Native Americans would react to that.
Probably with a swift boot....
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MrJonno wrote:It's very hard to prosecute a crime when the victims are so brainwashed that they don't even consider themselves to be a victim, so its hardly a trivially easy matter to deal with
At five years they should be removed for adoption if there is a risk of this medieval barbarism happening. Mothers-to-be in at risk communities should be vetted for 'embedded religious fuckwittery'. Easy enough to do at family clinics when they have other medical check ups...don't need to offer them a bacon butty just ask them a few simple questions.
You the state has the resources for mass adoption ? , you think there are the potential adoptive parents out their for 'brown' kids brought up in abusive shit cultures?
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Post by Gerald McGrew » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:40 pm

Scrumple wrote:A Home Office minister is to warn people who set up forced marriages
Are those illegal in the UK? If not, either pass a law or learn to live with it.
and commit so-called "honour crimes"
If they are crimes, then prosecute them.
Jeremy Browne will also say that the genital mutilation of girls as young as five is "barbaric" and should be regarded as "child abuse".
Same thing. If it's not illegal, then make it so.
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Post by Woodbutcher » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:24 pm

Immigration policy.
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Post by Audley Strange » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:40 pm

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Scrumple wrote:A Home Office minister is to warn people who set up forced marriages
Are those illegal in the UK? If not, either pass a law or learn to live with it.
and commit so-called "honour crimes"
If they are crimes, then prosecute them.
Jeremy Browne will also say that the genital mutilation of girls as young as five is "barbaric" and should be regarded as "child abuse".
Same thing. If it's not illegal, then make it so.
They're all illegal, they are all prosecuted when they are uncovered. The issue is that toxic subcultures emerging that are which enable and support these vile traditional practices within Western Democracies, knowing it is against the law of the land, but rather comes from a religious view. It is not just about forced marriages and honour killings, that makes it sound as if it is specifically targetting Muslims. There are Christian fuckwits from Africa who believe in all sorts of crazy shit, abusing and murdering children because of their beliefs.

We don't tolerate it, the problem is sometimes even finding out a crime has been committed because of the insular nature of these backwards cunts and the difficulty the police have in dealing with them.
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Post by mistermack » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:51 pm

Scrumple wrote:Jeremy Browne will also say that the genital mutilation of girls as young as five is "barbaric" and should be regarded as "child abuse".

About 20,000 girls a year are thought to be at risk from the practice.

The Lib Dem MP will also call for equal treatment of boys and girls in society.
Is this guy really that stupid, that he hasn't thought that through?
How do you achieve all of that, without banning circumcision of boys?
Not that I would object to that. That should definitely be banned too, but I can't imagine that it's what he has in mind.

Should be fun when it's pointed out to him. But of course, he's a Lib Dem. It's only a promise. He doesn't have to KEEP it.
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Post by Gerald McGrew » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:10 pm

Audley Strange wrote:They're all illegal, they are all prosecuted when they are uncovered. The issue is that toxic subcultures emerging that are which enable and support these vile traditional practices within Western Democracies, knowing it is against the law of the land, but rather comes from a religious view. It is not just about forced marriages and honour killings, that makes it sound as if it is specifically targetting Muslims. There are Christian fuckwits from Africa who believe in all sorts of crazy shit, abusing and murdering children because of their beliefs.

We don't tolerate it, the problem is sometimes even finding out a crime has been committed because of the insular nature of these backwards cunts and the difficulty the police have in dealing with them.
Sounds like steps need to be taken to make them less insular.
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