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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:15 pm

They started it, bloody well taking Constantinople.
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Post by Svartalf » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:18 pm

Saddam was shrub's private grudge, but you'll notice that the muslims picked up the war after a decade of calm. THEY did it, not us.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:21 pm

Bollocks.

And you seem to have missed the first attack on the WTC. Sept 11 didn't come out of nowhere.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:29 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Bollocks.

And you seem to have missed the first attack on the WTC. Sept 11 didn't come out of nowhere.
No, it came out of the Middle Eastern idea that feuds and grudges are the way of life.
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Post by sandinista » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:40 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:How many military bases where scaled down in that time? How many bombs were dropped on muslims in that time? How many security council resolutions against Israel did the US veto in that time? Sept 11 was just a continuation of confrontations that have been going back a while.

And by the way, Saddam was no friend of the terrorists (despite what Fox and Seth claim). He was relatively secularist.
This "view", if you want to call it that, that the US was targeted because "they" hate "our" "freedom" is laughable at best and ridiculous at worst. The power of propaganda. wow. Maybe read what Bin Laden said about the reasons for the attack:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver
Some American writers have published articles under the title 'On what basis are we fighting?' These articles have generated a number of responses, some of which adhered to the truth and were based on Islamic Law, and others which have not. Here we wanted to outline the truth - as an explanation and warning - hoping for Allah's reward, seeking success and support from Him.

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Q2)What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?

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(1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.

a) You attacked us in Palestine:
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Post by cronus » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:47 pm

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Post by sandinista » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:33 pm

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Post by Mysturji » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:49 pm

Scrumple wrote:The only way to stop Islam turning humanity into a blind ant hill is to directly and intelligently confront it. There is too much appeasement from some on the left who must have had orgasms at seeing the twin towers on fire. These are terrorist enablers and traitors to our common humanity and our survival as a species. They too must be hunted down. They too must be taken out of the picture.
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Post by cronus » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:58 pm

My views change on things change all the time which is why I figure major geo-engineering is necessary and slaughtering wholesale those who represent a threat to modernity may become necessary. :coffee:
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Post by sandinista » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:05 pm

Scrumple wrote:My views change on things change all the time which is why I figure major geo-engineering is necessary and slaughtering wholesale those who represent a threat to modernity may become necessary. :coffee:
a threat to "modernity"? would have to slaughter pretty much the whole planet then.
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Post by Tyrannical » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:47 pm

Red Celt wrote:You'll notice that the people calling for the control/expulsion of Muslims in the UK were highly unlikely to have done the same thing about all the Irish people in the UK during The Troubles. It's OK to dislike brown people, after all. And they're not even remotely racist. Honest, guv'nor.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:13 am

Where you going to send them, genius?
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Post by Robert_S » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:40 am

What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:35 am

Interesting article relating to some themes in this thread, about a secret CIA drone base in Saudi Arabia.
The Washington Post reported that President Barak Obama's counter-terrorism adviser, John Brennan, a former CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia, played a key role in negotiations with the government in Riyadh over building the drone base.

Saudi Arabia is home to some of Islam's holiest sites and the deployment of US forces there was seen as a historic betrayal by many Islamists, notably the late leader of al-Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden.

It was one of the main reasons given by the Saudi-born militant to justify violence against the US and its allies.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21350437
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Post by sandinista » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:06 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Interesting article relating to some themes in this thread, about a secret CIA drone base in Saudi Arabia.
The Washington Post reported that President Barak Obama's counter-terrorism adviser, John Brennan, a former CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia, played a key role in negotiations with the government in Riyadh over building the drone base.

Saudi Arabia is home to some of Islam's holiest sites and the deployment of US forces there was seen as a historic betrayal by many Islamists, notably the late leader of al-Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden.

It was one of the main reasons given by the Saudi-born militant to justify violence against the US and its allies.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21350437
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