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Re: Combat footage.

Post by CJ » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:27 pm

14 innocent atheist children indoctrinated with a pointless meme die.

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Re: Combat footage.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:30 pm

CJ wrote:14 innocent atheist children indoctrinated with a pointless meme die.
If you're armed, you're an enemy combatant. I don't give damn about gender, age or ideology at times like that.
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Re: Combat footage.

Post by AshtonBlack » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:37 pm

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CJ wrote:14 innocent atheist children indoctrinated with a pointless meme die.
If you're armed, you're an enemy combatant. I don't give damn about gender, age or ideology at times like that.
and sometimes, wrong person, wrong time, carrying something that looks like it could possibly, in the right light, look like a carbine. :ddpan:

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Re: Combat footage.

Post by FBM » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:38 pm

CJ wrote:14 innocent atheist children indoctrinated with a pointless meme die.
Word, dog. I mean, daa-yaam, y'know wut I'm sayin'?
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Re: Combat footage.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:38 pm

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CJ wrote:14 innocent atheist children indoctrinated with a pointless meme die.
If you're armed, you're an enemy combatant. I don't give damn about gender, age or ideology at times like that.
and sometimes, wrong person, wrong time, carrying something that looks like it could possibly, in the right light, look like a carbine. :ddpan:
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Re: Combat footage.

Post by AshtonBlack » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:39 pm

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CJ wrote:14 innocent atheist children indoctrinated with a pointless meme die.
If you're armed, you're an enemy combatant. I don't give damn about gender, age or ideology at times like that.
and sometimes, wrong person, wrong time, carrying something that looks like it could possibly, in the right light, look like a carbine. :ddpan:
"Fertilizer occurs."
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Re: Combat footage.

Post by CJ » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:46 pm

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CJ wrote:14 innocent atheist children indoctrinated with a pointless meme die.
If you're armed, you're an enemy combatant. I don't give damn about gender, age or ideology at times like that.
Agreed, they have guns in their hands and they wouldn't think twice about cutting mine or you head off if they had the chance. I was just bemoaning the situation they had grown up in that had caused the need to kill them.

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Re: Combat footage.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:48 pm

CJ wrote:
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CJ wrote:14 innocent atheist children indoctrinated with a pointless meme die.
If you're armed, you're an enemy combatant. I don't give damn about gender, age or ideology at times like that.
Agreed, they have guns in their hands and they wouldn't think twice about cutting mine or you head off if they had the chance. I was just bemoaning the situation they had grown up in that had caused the need to kill them.
Very true. I hated the idea of fighting kids, but if you're shooting at me, you're old enough . . .
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Re: Combat footage.

Post by The Red Fox » Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:28 pm

I'm a pacifist, but I support feminism. In this case I think the latter wins. Fuck the taliban.
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Re: Combat footage.

Post by charlou » Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:16 am

The Red Fox wrote:I'm a pacifist, but I support feminism. In this case I think the latter wins. Fuck the taliban.
Change feminism to humanism, and I echo this sentiment. Well put, TRF ... although, I guess that means we're not pacifists, after all ...
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Re: Combat footage.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:24 am

Charlou wrote:
The Red Fox wrote:I'm a pacifist, but I support feminism. In this case I think the latter wins. Fuck the taliban.
Change feminism to humanism, and I echo this sentiment. Well put, TRF ... although, I guess that means we're not pacifists, after all ...
I used to have a bet, "I can change from a pacifist in about 10 seconds." Nobody ever took me up on it.
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Re: Combat footage.

Post by The Red Fox » Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:06 am

Charlou wrote:
The Red Fox wrote:I'm a pacifist, but I support feminism. In this case I think the latter wins. Fuck the taliban.
Change feminism to humanism, and I echo this sentiment. Well put, TRF ... although, I guess that means we're not pacifists, after all ...
Humanism is certainly a better word for my views. I used feminism because I was thinking specifically of their repulsive treatment of women when I wrote that comment.

As for my pacifism, I'm still as much for peace as I always was, but this invasion happened and I certainly won't lose any sleep knowing that some primitive, brainwashed misogynists aren't around terrorising innocents any more. I can't say I'm happy that killing is happening, there or in any part of the world, but if the Taliban won't change and become loving, rational, normal human beings then I won't mourn their loss.
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Re: Combat footage.

Post by charlou » Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:26 am

According to Answers.com, pacifism is
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1. The belief that disputes between nations should and can be settled peacefully.
2.
1. Opposition to war or violence as a means of resolving disputes.
2. Such opposition demonstrated by refusal to participate in military action.

http://www.answers.com/topic/pacifism
But Wikipedia describes pacifism, thus:
Pacifism is the opposition to war or violence as a means of settling disputes or gaining advantage. Pacifism covers a spectrum of views ranging from the belief that international disputes can and should be peacefully resolved; to calls for the abolition of the institutions of the military and war; to opposition to any organization of society through governmental force (anarchist or libertarian pacifism); to rejection of the use of physical violence to obtain political, economic or social goals; to the condemnation of force except in cases where it is absolutely necessary to advance the cause of peace; to opposition to violence under any circumstance, including defense of self and others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifism
The bit I've bolded applies here, I think.

Yes, peace (human freedom and equality) is the preferable ideal, and therefore oppression and violence can't be ignored or tolerated.

This seems to be a paradoxical, yet pragmatic form of pacifism.
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Re: Combat footage.

Post by Chinaski » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:47 pm

Am I a bad person for laughing at the one guy who blew himself up? For some reason I just found the idea of that very funny.
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Re: Combat footage.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:50 pm

FrigidSymphony wrote:Am I a bad person for laughing at the one guy who blew himself up? For some reason I just found the idea of that very funny.
It was stupid and futile. He didn't even damage an US equipment, leave alone hurt or kill an enemy. Total waste.
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