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Post by Tero » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:29 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I can only imagine what that was about. :hehe:
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You Socialists should not underestimate the determination of the people of the United States not to be disarmed. Doing so is a fatal mistake, or so I'm told by credible sources.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:35 am

Tero wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I can only imagine what that was about. :hehe:
what, this?
You Socialists should not underestimate the determination of the people of the United States not to be disarmed. Doing so is a fatal mistake, or so I'm told by credible sources.
Pure bullshit, as usual.
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Post by Ian » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:55 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Tero wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I can only imagine what that was about. :hehe:
what, this?
You Socialists should not underestimate the determination of the people of the United States not to be disarmed. Doing so is a fatal mistake, or so I'm told by credible sources.
Pure bullshit, as usual.
Perhaps we could change Seth's rank to "Overactive Amygdala"? :ask:

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Post by aspire1670 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:47 am

Seth wrote:
aspire1670 wrote:
Seth wrote:
aspire1670 wrote:
Seth wrote:
Don't want to get shot dead? Then don't rob people have an armed populace roaming the streets. Pretty simple really.
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Spectacularly wrong. Disarming the law-abiding does nothing about disarming the criminals and merely makes the law-abiding easier victims for the criminals, as our 20+ year experiment with lawful concealed carry proves.
You should really get your knee-jerk fixed, young Seth, you've just shot yourself in the foot again. Where did I say that guns should only be taken fron the law-abiding? We can only hope that you acquire wisdom and better judgement as you mature.
But you cannot take guns from the criminals because they won't obediently report to turn them in. They will secret them away and hide from the collection Nazis and continue to use them against law abiding people.

You are suggesting utopian nonsense that's factually and practically unachievable. Because that is the case, all confiscating arms will do is victimize the law abiding, and it will have little effect on the ability of criminals to obtain guns.

There are nearly 300 million guns in the US, and there's simply no way to find them all, or even a small proportion of them, in no small part because the moment confiscations begin, most of the guns in the hands of law abiding citizens will disappear overnight...or they will be used to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution and the right of the people to keep and bear arms by eliminating any government functionary who presumes to try to seize someone's arms, or so my contacts tell me.

In other words, at the first sign of federally-lead confiscation, there will be armed insurrection and any federal agent who tries to seize arms will not live long, I suspect. And every cop I know of, outside of the chiefs of police in big cities, will join with the People in suppressing any attempt to seize arms. Wyoming, for example, is now considering a bill in its legislature making it a felony for any federal agent or officer to attempt to confiscate any firearm from an otherwise law-abiding citizen, and authorizing the use of force to arrest such persons.

You Socialists should not underestimate the determination of the people of the United States not to be disarmed. Doing so is a fatal mistake, or so I'm told by credible sources.
Ouch, those shots to your feet have got to hurt, young Seth. Not only do you suffer from knee-jerk but your eyesight is also defective. You are a danger to yourself and others.

You can keep and bear all the guns you like in your home, or at your gun club, or at the range but take them onto the street and you become a criminal and your guns are confiscated. You could argue that the 2nd amendment is inviolable but we would refer to the definition of amendment and then point at you and laugh. We also laugh at the idea you have contacts who are credible sources.
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Post by MrJonno » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:33 am

You Socialists should not underestimate the determination of the people of the United States not to be disarmed. Doing so is a fatal mistake, or so I'm told by credible sources.
I would say you actually underestimate how much most people want a stress free easy life and will do the best they can to avoid conflict. Most people will not fight for anything bar an immediate threat on their existance. The days of people signing up in mass in the name of XXX to any cause to get slaughtered are long gone and they those days won't be missed.
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Post by JimC » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:45 am

MrJonno wrote:
You Socialists should not underestimate the determination of the people of the United States not to be disarmed. Doing so is a fatal mistake, or so I'm told by credible sources.
I would say you actually underestimate how much most people want a stress free easy life and will do the best they can to avoid conflict. Most people will not fight for anything bar an immediate threat on their existance. The days of people signing up in mass in the name of XXX to any cause to get slaughtered are long gone and they those days won't be missed.
There'll be the odd sad lunatic doing his own personal Waco...

Problem will be solved when they prise his gun from his cold dead hands...
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Post by MrJonno » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:00 am

JimC wrote:
MrJonno wrote:
You Socialists should not underestimate the determination of the people of the United States not to be disarmed. Doing so is a fatal mistake, or so I'm told by credible sources.
I would say you actually underestimate how much most people want a stress free easy life and will do the best they can to avoid conflict. Most people will not fight for anything bar an immediate threat on their existance. The days of people signing up in mass in the name of XXX to any cause to get slaughtered are long gone and they those days won't be missed.
There'll be the odd sad lunatic doing his own personal Waco...

Problem will be solved when they prise his gun from his cold dead hands...

People have to do things they don't like all day long, its called having a job (and a wife). If the cost of not doing what you are told is far higher than obeying most of us will obey
When only criminals carry guns the police know exactly who to shoot!

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:49 am

Ian wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Tero wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I can only imagine what that was about. :hehe:
what, this?
You Socialists should not underestimate the determination of the people of the United States not to be disarmed. Doing so is a fatal mistake, or so I'm told by credible sources.
Pure bullshit, as usual.
Perhaps we could change Seth's rank to "Overactive Amygdala"? :ask:
Or "Needs Bullet in Amygdala"?
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Post by Jason » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:49 am

I can't believe that dude that tried to blow his head off.. fuck.

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Post by laklak » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:53 am

I would SO do the little blonde.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Ian » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:54 am

Făkünamę wrote:I can't believe that dude that tried to blow his head off.. fuck.
None of them tried to do anything stupid. They're just stupid people. :biggrin:

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Post by Jason » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:54 am

Probably underage.. he lives with his mom.

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Post by Tero » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:56 pm

Finally some excitement at gun show
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/19/us/north- ... .html?c=us

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Post by Ian » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:37 pm

Tero wrote:Finally some excitement at gun show
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/19/us/north- ... .html?c=us
There were 5 people shot at 3 different gun shows yesterday ("Gun Appreciation Day").


Something from Politifact.com...
"Since 1968, more Americans have died from gunfire than died in … all the wars of this country's history." -Mark Shields, PBS commentator.
Politifact's research concludes: Not only is this True, but the former figure is 213,000 higher than the latter, 1.38 million to 1.17 million.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... lled-guns/

In fairness, these statistics include suicides, so the numbers are a good bit higher than they would be if suicides were not counted. But here's another statistic: people living with a gun in the house are 500% more likely to successfully commit suicide than people who do not live with a gun. Not a terribly bad reason for gun-related suiicides to be included along with all the homicides and accidents.

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