Lottery price rise 'an unfair tax on the stupid'

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Re: Lottery price rise 'an unfair tax on the stupid'

Post by JimC » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:15 pm

As a form of gambling, a ticket in the lottery is probably the least dangerous. In many other, more direct forms (e.g. poker machines), some people are tempted to gamble a little more, then more still...

It is fairly easy just to keep to one ticket a week, where at least it can be budgeted for, and the amount doesn't snowball...
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Re: Lottery price rise 'an unfair tax on the stupid'

Post by klr » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:21 pm

JimC wrote:As a form of gambling, a ticket in the lottery is probably the least dangerous. In many other, more direct forms (e.g. poker machines), some people are tempted to gamble a little more, then more still...

It is fairly easy just to keep to one ticket a week, where at least it can be budgeted for, and the amount doesn't snowball...
As regular lotteries go, you're probably right. But many of them spawn additional products like instant scratch-and-win cards, and they are different. I've seen shopkeepers refuse to sell those to people who were obviously addicted.
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Re: Lottery price rise 'an unfair tax on the stupid'

Post by JimC » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:23 pm

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JimC wrote:As a form of gambling, a ticket in the lottery is probably the least dangerous. In many other, more direct forms (e.g. poker machines), some people are tempted to gamble a little more, then more still...

It is fairly easy just to keep to one ticket a week, where at least it can be budgeted for, and the amount doesn't snowball...
As regular lotteries go, you're probably right. But many of them spawn additional products like instant scratch-and-win cards, and they are different. I've seen shopkeepers refuse to sell those to people who were obviously addicted.
Yes, those scratch cards are tailored to the instant gratification crowd...

EDIT - ethical shopkeepers? What the fuck?
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:26 pm

Audley Strange wrote:To be honest though I think the government should make it a fiver and purloin 3/4 of it. If the plebs have that much money to fritter away on fantasies it could be put to better use for the dumb bastards, like a new tyre swing or fresh hay in their council estates.
They should put a 100% tax on movie tickets then.
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Re: Lottery price rise 'an unfair tax on the stupid'

Post by Audley Strange » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:04 am

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Audley Strange wrote:To be honest though I think the government should make it a fiver and purloin 3/4 of it. If the plebs have that much money to fritter away on fantasies it could be put to better use for the dumb bastards, like a new tyre swing or fresh hay in their council estates.
They should put a 100% tax on movie tickets then.
Well maybe 30%, lets not have the revolting revolting.
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Post by Jason » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:29 am

JimC wrote:As a form of gambling, a ticket in the lottery is probably the least dangerous. In many other, more direct forms (e.g. poker machines), some people are tempted to gamble a little more, then more still...

It is fairly easy just to keep to one ticket a week, where at least it can be budgeted for, and the amount doesn't snowball...
But I'm good at poker. I started with 2000 facebucks and now I have over a million.

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Făkünamę wrote:
JimC wrote:As a form of gambling, a ticket in the lottery is probably the least dangerous. In many other, more direct forms (e.g. poker machines), some people are tempted to gamble a little more, then more still...

It is fairly easy just to keep to one ticket a week, where at least it can be budgeted for, and the amount doesn't snowball...
But I'm good at poker. I started with 2000 facebucks and now I have over a million.

I think a windfall superrax should be levied on you to bring your facebucks back to the average...
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Post by Jason » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:19 pm

I did win 700,000 in the first two weeks I played.. I should have played for real money. :?

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:31 pm

klr wrote:
JimC wrote:As a form of gambling, a ticket in the lottery is probably the least dangerous. In many other, more direct forms (e.g. poker machines), some people are tempted to gamble a little more, then more still...

It is fairly easy just to keep to one ticket a week, where at least it can be budgeted for, and the amount doesn't snowball...
As regular lotteries go, you're probably right. But many of them spawn additional products like instant scratch-and-win cards, and they are different. I've seen shopkeepers refuse to sell those to people who were obviously addicted.
I've never seen a shopkeeper refuse to sell anything to anyone with money. I'm not sure I'd want shopkeepers to be policing the patrons anyway. "Yeah - I want to buy 10 cartons of Lucky Strikes, a bottle of whiskey and 100 lottery tickets. Fuck you."

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:32 pm

Făkünamę wrote:I did win 700,000 in the first two weeks I played.. I should have played for real money. :?
You'll find the game is played a bit differently when the money is real.

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Coito ergo sum wrote:
klr wrote:
JimC wrote:As a form of gambling, a ticket in the lottery is probably the least dangerous. In many other, more direct forms (e.g. poker machines), some people are tempted to gamble a little more, then more still...

It is fairly easy just to keep to one ticket a week, where at least it can be budgeted for, and the amount doesn't snowball...
As regular lotteries go, you're probably right. But many of them spawn additional products like instant scratch-and-win cards, and they are different. I've seen shopkeepers refuse to sell those to people who were obviously addicted.
I've never seen a shopkeeper refuse to sell anything to anyone with money. I'm not sure I'd want shopkeepers to be policing the patrons anyway. "Yeah - I want to buy 10 cartons of Lucky Strikes, a bottle of whiskey and 100 lottery tickets. Fuck you."
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Re: Lottery price rise 'an unfair tax on the stupid'

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:54 pm

klr wrote: Ah, you compassionate Yankees with your fine-tuned sense of social responsibility. :razzle:
Not sure appointing a guy running a 7-Eleven as the morality police constitutes "social responsibility", but if that's what the Continentals think, then I guess...

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Re: Lottery price rise 'an unfair tax on the stupid'

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Coito ergo sum wrote:
klr wrote: Ah, you compassionate Yankees with your fine-tuned sense of social responsibility. :razzle:
Not sure appointing a guy running a 7-Eleven as the morality police constitutes "social responsibility", but if that's what the Continentals think, then I guess...
I'm not a continental - that would be the French. :what:

IMHO, just because you're providing goods or services does not mean that you should divest yourself of all social responsibility when it comes to making money.
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:08 pm

klr wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
klr wrote: Ah, you compassionate Yankees with your fine-tuned sense of social responsibility. :razzle:
Not sure appointing a guy running a 7-Eleven as the morality police constitutes "social responsibility", but if that's what the Continentals think, then I guess...
I'm not a continental - that would be the French. :what:

IMHO, just because you're providing goods or services does not mean that you should divest yourself of all social responsibility when it comes to making money.
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Re: Lottery price rise 'an unfair tax on the stupid'

Post by Ian » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:13 pm

The lottery itself is a tax on the stupid.

But it's fun once in a while. My policy is that when the prize gets above nine figures ($100 million or higher), then I play. It's fun to hope for that once in a great while. As for shmucks who play every week and hope to win each time, that's pretty silly.

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