Argentina opens up second front in Falklands Kerfuffle

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:05 pm

Făkünamę wrote:I'm aware of that Coito. That was sort of the point.
Doesn't sound like it could possibly be the point. I mean -- are you suggesting the Falklands are in Argentina's territorial waters? Territorial waters are 12 nautical miles out. The Falklands are well outside that limit, being about 280 miles from Tierra del Fuego and 300 miles from the nearest coastline of Argentina. Are we extending Argentina's territorial waters out to 300 miles now?

A country's exclusive economic zone only goes 200 nautical miles from its coastline, so the Falklands are well outside that zone too.

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Post by Cormac » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:10 pm

Făkünamę wrote:So you claim all rocks around your Island thus extending your borders beyond any outcropping? Clever.

Yes. Right up to our neighbours territory.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:33 pm

Cormac wrote:
Făkünamę wrote:
Cormac wrote:
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JimC wrote:Given that the original settlers of the islands were British, and Britain has always had sovereignty over the islands, and that there were no indigenous people, and that the current inhabitants overwhelmingly wish to remain British, Argentina simply has no case.
Geography? England isn't even on pppppppolpkmmn same continental shelf.

This is not in any way a logical reason.
So if, say, North Korea settled one of those largish rocks near your Island you'd be cool with it?

Let us recap.

Britain claimed an UNPOPULATED, UNCLAIMED island. This is a gold standard territorial claim.

Argentina's claim is that the island is just off their shore, and it has oil, and, well, they want it, regardless of what the people who live there want.

If North Korea turned up on our shores, they would be violating the territorial integrity of an existing country. This would be an overt act of war.
The Malouines were claimed by us, to the extent that even the argies kept OUR name for them... they belong to France.
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Post by Jason » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:08 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Făkünamę wrote:I'm aware of that Coito. That was sort of the point.
Doesn't sound like it could possibly be the point. I mean -- are you suggesting the Falklands are in Argentina's territorial waters? Territorial waters are 12 nautical miles out. The Falklands are well outside that limit, being about 280 miles from Tierra del Fuego and 300 miles from the nearest coastline of Argentina. Are we extending Argentina's territorial waters out to 300 miles now?

A country's exclusive economic zone only goes 200 nautical miles from its coastline, so the Falklands are well outside that zone too.
:sigh: Never mind.

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Post by Cormac » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:56 pm

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The Malouines were claimed by us, to the extent that even the argies kept OUR name for them... they belong to France.
:)

At least if they were taken over by the French they might get good coffee, excellent croissants, and lovely fresh crusty baguettes in the morning.

If they're really lucky, they might develop a Gallic shrug and a quasi-Parisian chic in the wild South Atlantic!

:)

That isn't how they spell it.

Perhaps the best idea is for France and Argentina to duke it out, and the winner can apply to Britain the be judged best suitor, before being rejected...
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Post by Jason » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:59 pm

I think France should give Brittany back to England. :razzle:

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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:02 am

Făkünamę wrote:I think France should give Brittany back to England. :razzle:
Isn't there some Welsh connection to Brittany? I thought I heard They even speak Welsh around there somewhere...Or was I dreaming? :think:

Edit - Ah, Good ol' Wiki:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany
French, the only official language of the French Republic, is today spoken throughout Brittany. The two regional languages are supported by the regional authorities within the constitutional limits: Breton, strongest in the west but to be seen all over Brittany, is a Celtic language most closely related to Cornish and Welsh. Gallo, which is spoken in the east, is one of the romance Langues d'oïl.
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Făkünamę wrote:I think France should give Brittany back to England. :razzle:


...and the rest.

or is it that England should give England back to France?

:ask:
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Post by Jason » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:07 am

Frangland! :yayay:

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Post by Cormac » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:10 am

Făkünamę wrote:Frangland! :yayay:

The problem is that they'd all be called Norman.

(Which is nearly as bad as being called Cecil, or Ethelred).
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Post by Svartalf » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:19 am

Făkünamę wrote:I think France should give Brittany back to England. :razzle:
When the angles and saxons relocate to Germany and Denmark.
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Post by JimC » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:45 am

I think we should all return to Africa!
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Post by Jason » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:46 am

Give Africa back to the Neanderthals!

..oh right.

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Post by JimC » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:54 am

Făkünamę wrote:Give Africa back to the Neanderthals!

..oh right.
A final solution was devised for that little problem...
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Post by Svartalf » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:18 am

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