Untold History of the United States

[pErvinalia]

He's a Libertarian.

Actually, the world is divided into two groups - Marxists and Seth. It makes debating on the internet really easy.

[Seth]

And the main European examples of marxist societies, including the USSR, failed without any military intervention by the west...

Complete and utter hogwash. The USSR failed because the United States spent trillions of dollars protecting Europe from the Communists and billions more strengthening our military capability in an arms race that eventually bankrupted the USSR. That's "military intervention" in every sense of the word...it's just military intervention without a shooting war.

And the Chinese communist party has made it's own transformation into something Lenin would not see as marxist, I suspect...

Doesn't mean it's goal is not to eventually reach the end-state conditions that Marx set. China is merely using limited capitalism to fund it's military plans.

[Rum]

He's a Libertarian.

Actually, the world is divided into two groups - Marxists and Seth. It makes debating on the internet really easy.

..he makes me larf.

[Coito ergo sum]

This may have been posted about already since it's already in episode 8, and pretty sure most of you have heard of this series, but in case you haven't, it's excellent and well worth the watch. I've enjoyed every episode, more thorough than most television shows as well as a lot more honest.

http://www.sho.com/sho/oliver-stones-un ... tates/home

Oliver Stone? Well, it's bound to be as accurate as the movie "JFK" then. If it's anything like Brad Meltzer's Decoded, and I suspect it is, it'll be quite a treat.

[sandinista]

The USSR failed because the United States spent trillions of dollars protecting Europe from the Communists and billions more strengthening our military capability in an arms race that eventually bankrupted the USSR. That's "military intervention" in every sense of the word...it's just military intervention without a shooting war.

true, very true.

Complete and utter hogwash.

sorry jimc, but your last few posts have been exactly that.

Oliver Stone? Well, it's bound to be as accurate as the movie "JFK" then

oh man, another person who doesn't know the difference between a fictional film and a documentary, not too surprising though

[Coito ergo sum]

Oliver Stone? Well, it's bound to be as accurate as the movie "JFK" then

oh man, another person who doesn't know the difference between a fictional film and a documentary, not too surprising though

No no...I am sure it will be as accurate and complete as the documentary series "Brad Meltzer's Decoded."

[sandinista]

Oliver Stone? Well, it's bound to be as accurate as the movie "JFK" then

oh man, another person who doesn't know the difference between a fictional film and a documentary, not too surprising though

No no...I am sure it will be as accurate and complete as the documentary series "Brad Meltzer's Decoded."

wtf is that? Oliver Stones involvement is what?

[Coito ergo sum]

Oliver Stone? Well, it's bound to be as accurate as the movie "JFK" then

oh man, another person who doesn't know the difference between a fictional film and a documentary, not too surprising though

No no...I am sure it will be as accurate and complete as the documentary series "Brad Meltzer's Decoded."

wtf is that? Oliver Stones involvement is what?

It's a comparison. Given Oliver Stone's chops in this regard, he is about on the same level as Brad Meltzer and I have no doubt that Stone's series is as accurate as Meltzer's.

[sandinista]

It's a comparison. Given Oliver Stone's chops in this regard, he is about on the same level as Brad Meltzer and I have no doubt that Stone's series is as accurate as Meltzer's

what are you talking about? Given Stone's chops in this regard? What regard? Making documentaries? What docs has he made that would make you say that? Meltzer? Who the fuck is that? You make less sense with each post you make.

[Coito ergo sum]

It's a comparison. Given Oliver Stone's chops in this regard, he is about on the same level as Brad Meltzer and I have no doubt that Stone's series is as accurate as Meltzer's

what are you talking about? Given Stone's chops in this regard? What regard? Making documentaries? What docs has he made that would make you say that?

None. He's used to making movies that bear only a passing resemblance to the truth. Not much reason to expect more now.

Meltzer? Who the fuck is that?

He's a novelist and comic book writer, who turned into a documentary maker with his series Decoded. He's a good analogy for Stone, who is a fiction movie maker, who turned documentary filmmaker with this series you're crowing about. Likely they both come within similar ranges to the truth.

You make less sense with each post you make.

I'll try to use smaller words next time so you'll be better able to understand.

[sandinista]

None. He's used to making movies that bear only a passing resemblance to the truth. Not much reason to expect more now.

actually false on both accounts, no surprise there.

I'll try to use smaller words next time so you'll be better able to understand.

how about just start by attempting to make sense. The size of the words aren't the issue. Let me guess, you are commenting on a film series you haven't even seen. Typical.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Sandy's hooked his wagon to another falling star.

[sandinista]

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I love "Ignore."

[sandinista]

never understood that...if you are "ignoring" my posts, how come you always reply to them? You're obviously not ignoring them.