Untold History of the United States

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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Rum » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:13 pm

Nothing like a good robust intellectual discussion.

Yep, nothing like.

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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:14 pm

We could stay down on Stone's level, but you'd loose me pretty quick. Amateur historians aren't interesting.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:17 pm

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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Rum » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:18 pm

I don't mind a personal interpretation of history. His is hardly extreme - pretty hum drum really. The worst thing about his film (well I only watched the first) was his narration. You would think such an experienced film maker would know his voice - intonation, tone, clarity and mood, were simply not up to the job of making it remotely interesting.

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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:20 pm

The same amount of time spent with Wiki would be more productive.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:22 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:We could stay down on Stone's level, but you'd loose me pretty quick. Amateur historians aren't interesting.
Lol. Says some guy on the internet.

You do realise that he has a historian researching and co-writing the script, right?
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:24 pm

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:We could stay down on Stone's level, but you'd loose me pretty quick. Amateur historians aren't interesting.
Lol. Says some guy on the internet.

You do realise that he has a historian researching and co-writing the script, right?
Yeah, and I have no background in history.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:28 pm

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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:29 pm

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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by mistermack » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:30 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:We could stay down on Stone's level, but you'd loose me pretty quick. Amateur historians aren't interesting.
Lol. Says some guy on the internet.

You do realise that he has a historian researching and co-writing the script, right?
I would assume that he had help researching JFK.
It was still a ludicrous joke, from a historical point of view.

Good box office, yes. But nothing more.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:30 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:We could stay down on Stone's level, but you'd loose me pretty quick. Amateur historians aren't interesting.
Lol. Says some guy on the internet.

You do realise that he has a historian researching and co-writing the script, right?
Yeah, and I have no background in history.
And once again you are being contradictory. Why do you accuse his production of being "amateur" history, but then allege that you knew all along that he has a historian doing his research and writing his scripts?
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:31 pm

mistermack wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:We could stay down on Stone's level, but you'd loose me pretty quick. Amateur historians aren't interesting.
Lol. Says some guy on the internet.

You do realise that he has a historian researching and co-writing the script, right?
I would assume that he had help researching JFK.
It was still a ludicrous joke, from a historical point of view.

Good box office, yes. But nothing more.
Lol. Has this forum just turned into "irrational-ville" all of a sudden?!? It was movie, ffs. Of course it was good at the box office and nothing more. What the fuck do you think it was? And regardless of all that, the point zilla was stupidly making was that it involved "amateur historians", when clearly it doesn't. But I guess some bloke on the internet is the best judge of that, right? :roll:
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:34 pm

eEv, you're just looking silly now.
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:34 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Ever visited my sites?
Who cares about your "sites"? What does that have to do with irrational and illogical statements you are making in this thread? :ask:
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Re: Untold History of the United States

Post by mistermack » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:35 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Lol. Has this forum just turned into "irrational-ville" all of a sudden?!? It was movie, ffs. Of course it was good at the box office and nothing more. What the fuck do you think it was? And regardless of all that, the point zilla was stupidly making was that it involved "amateur historians", when clearly it doesn't. But I guess some bloke on the internet is the best judge of that, right? :roll:
Well, why would you go to Oliver Stone for a history, when he's made such a joke of it in the past?

Would you go to a surgeon who has killed all of his previous patients, if he "promised" to take it seriously this time?
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