How many 'ethnics' here vs WEIRDs?

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Re: How many 'ethnics' here vs WEIRDs?

Post by Jason » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:29 am

Suppose he analyzes the DNA sequences of different breeds of dogs and tells us there is no such thing as 'breeds' next. :bored:

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Post by FBM » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:31 am

"In fact, it doesn't even exist in humans."
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Post by Jason » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:32 am

I read that. I've also read that study before. It's garbage. Just like global warming.

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Post by FBM » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:33 am

No offense, but I'm going to stick with the PhD guy who actually did the research. ;)
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Post by Jason » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:34 am

As opposed to the other PhD guys who did their research and disagree. Right.

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Re: How many 'ethnics' here vs WEIRDs?

Post by JimC » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:35 am

However, the skin colour, hair and other surface features are real, non-random, and breed true, so I guess they are in the 15 % of real, consistent variation between racially defined groups.

The important thing is that there is not going to be a lot of genetic variation other than the component responsible for the superficial (but still real) differences we observe; no room for any important genetically-derived cognitive differences, for example...
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Post by FBM » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:36 am

Făkünamę wrote:As opposed to the other PhD guys who did their research and disagree. Right.
Post their work and I'll give it a look. :tup:
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Post by Jason » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:15 am

Yes, there's the obviously differences in phenotype. There's also the probabilistic predisposition of certain 'races' towards certain diseases - sickle cell anemia and cystic fibrosis spring to mind. The race-mythers often cite the statistic that 85% of variation occurs within a population, but conveniently fail to specify the importance of that 85%. Medical science tells us quite clearly that the 15% between populations has great impact while that 85% has a relatively negligible impact.
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Post by Jason » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:16 am

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Făkünamę wrote:As opposed to the other PhD guys who did their research and disagree. Right.
Post their work and I'll give it a look. :tup:
I'll post my paper on the subject for your personal benefit when it's finished. :tup:

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Post by FBM » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:28 am

Făkünamę wrote:
FBM wrote:
Făkünamę wrote:As opposed to the other PhD guys who did their research and disagree. Right.
Post their work and I'll give it a look. :tup:
I'll post my paper on the subject for your personal benefit when it's finished. :tup:
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Post by Jason » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:44 am

Currently skimming 5 different studies, wondering if it's worth my time to argue this here. It's probably isn't.

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Post by FBM » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:55 am

I don't plan to. :hehe:
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Post by Jason » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:10 am

Every once in a while declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies. :hehe:

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Post by Cormac » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:13 am

laklak wrote:Could be, 'zilla. A lot of the Irish prods were Scots that migrated to Ulster. My family, fer instance, were originally lowland Scot (Stewart of Appin clan) that split Scotland for Ulster after backing the wrong horse in the 2nd Jacobite uprising.

While this is true for some of the Northern counties, it wasn't particularly true of the other counties, where many protestants are either native Irish, or the descendants of English planters.
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Re: How many 'ethnics' here vs WEIRDs?

Post by FBM » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:21 am

Făkünamę wrote:Every once in a while declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies. :hehe:
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