How many 'ethnics' here vs WEIRDs?

[cronus]

How racially diverse is Rationalia? I'm just curious....

[Gawdzilla Sama]

How racially diverse is Rationalia? I'm just curious....

We have "human race" and "other."

[Jason]

I'm Scottish, English, French, and Native American (6th generation I believe). Mostly white with a hint of brown (mostly freckles that have mostly disappeared - just like the Native Americans).

[Jason]

How racially diverse is Rationalia? I'm just curious....

We have "human race" and "other."

Yeah.. but isn't that like saying we have "iced cream" and "other"? What about chocolate, vanilla, rocky road, or neapolitan?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

How racially diverse is Rationalia? I'm just curious....

We have "human race" and "other."

Yeah.. but isn't that like saying we have "iced cream" and "other"? What about chocolate, vanilla, rocky road, or neapolitan?

How many races do we have? Human race = 1.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

...And lizards.

[Jason]

How racially diverse is Rationalia? I'm just curious....

We have "human race" and "other."

Yeah.. but isn't that like saying we have "iced cream" and "other"? What about chocolate, vanilla, rocky road, or neapolitan?

How many races do we have? Human race = 1.

How many ice creams do we have? Ice cream = 1.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

How racially diverse is Rationalia? I'm just curious....

We have "human race" and "other."

Yeah.. but isn't that like saying we have "iced cream" and "other"? What about chocolate, vanilla, rocky road, or neapolitan?

How many races do we have? Human race = 1.

How many ice creams do we have? Ice cream = 1.

Yep, because you can blend any ice cream in with any other ice cream and still have ice cream.

[cronus]

Given the rather obvious wealth disparity between blacks/latinos in the US and elsewhere compared with whites it is all rather helpful to one particular corner to argue we are only 'the human race' isn't it?

[Jason]

Yes, yes. That's how you define a species, apparently. But 'race' is not 'species'. It describes skin tone and assumed place of ancestral origin, although not too far back or else we'd all be African.

[Jason]

Given the rather obvious wealth disparity between blacks/latinos in the US and elsewhere compared with whites it is all rather helpful to one particular corner to argue we are only 'the human race' isn't it?

It's a PC "white wash". I don't jive with it, but it's a tricky thing to argue. It's like being opposed to Zionism but not being anti-Semitic (another stupid term).

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Prove there's any validity to the concept of "race".

[Jason]

Prove there isn't. It's your contention that there is not.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Prove there isn't. It's your contention that there is not.

Fail. Until you can prove something exists it don't.

[Jason]

OK, quick google turns up this blog that sums it up pretty well:

There is a lot of nonsense going around these days about the races of man, and how race is not a valid concept in humans. Sure it is. It can be seen as analogous to subspecies in animals and plants. A counterargument is that subspecies are limited to certain geographic areas, hence they do not interbreed. Indeed, but when their ranges do overlap, you do get hybrids.

Even full species can interbreed sometimes, and, as a fanatical birdwatcher, I have seen hybrid species of birds before. In general, nowadays, genetic distance is used as a parameter to delimit species, subspecies and even geographic segments of species. Where none of those will do, we can use the term “race”, as you see below with California kingsnakes.

The average differences between some of the major human races may even be greater than the distance between some full species – this notion is controversial though. At any rate, race is clearly a biological reality in more ways than mere skin color.

It’s clear that race in humans is a warranted concept. The fear of it is only a fear that acknowledgment of the existence of race = racism. The project is to lie and deny that race exists for the greater good of a game called, “If you deny that race exists, racism will vanish.”

That this project with noble intentions is doomed is probable. We are what we are, and that is cavemen and cavewomen with suits and matching outfits.

Anyway, strictly biologically speaking, race is a valid concept.

Let us take for example a snake. I am a snake-o-phile, or whatever they are called. I love snakes.

Here in California there is a critter called the California kingsnake.

What is interesting about the CA kingsnake is that it lacks subspecies. Now, most snakes and many mammals and birds have subspecies.

But the CA kingsnake has things called “races” that are even below the level of the subspecies. They can look dramatically different from a regular kingsnake, but there is apparently not enough genetic variation there to cut them into subspecies, so they are just called races.

The notion of whether or not human races divide sufficiently to be called subspecies is not yet sorted out, with White Nationalists coming down on the side that the races really are subspecies, and everyone else not even wanting to touch the subject.

At any rate, to call the races races, below the level of subspecies, in a California kingsnake kind of way, is hardly going to be the end of the world. It’s not even a radical concept. Biologically speaking, it’s utterly banal.

Amazing that careers are destroyed over this stuff. How dumb can you get?

The emphasis added just to tie in with what I was saying earlier.