27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

[Jason]

You started it, I'll finish it. If you want to apologize, I'll apologize and let it go. If you keep on trying to excuse yourself, I'm going to keep at you till you go away, because that's MY right as the one insulted. In the old days, we'd be having our seconds call upon one another to arrange a duel, which you would lose. You should thank your lucky stars that we live in a civilized society.

Seth would like to kill you for insulting him. Lucky we live in a civilized society that prevents him from doing so without going to jail for life.

A duel is a fair fight, and it tends to make society a more polite place. Pity they don't allow it any more, the world would be a better place without fuckwits who think that they can do or say anything they like without consequence.

Ah well, the good old days are gone, so we'll just have to thrust and parry with words instead. That'll do I suppose.

Well, in that case, be glad they don't allow it. You'd be a dead man.

[Seth]

So, everybody should be armed at all times. It would make for some interesting flash crowds. You can keep your gun worship in the States then. We'll see you in the news. You did say before that a few mass murders should not hinder you from gun ownership. Seth said anyone is allowed to carry until proven insane. Gallstones worships Seth. What a fucking trio.

How dare you make ups lies about me.

That was for mozg.

You are the only one defending him. He is a fucking TROLL according to his own words. An attack on a troll is not an attack on a real person. You said you met him and he taught you guns and self-respect. Whooppee! We do not know what the fuck he is like except what we infer from his posts. His posts put him firmly in the "cunt" category in spite of his eloquence. Maybe he is a knight in shining armour to you, but nobody else on this forum thinks so.

It's not her fault that everybody else (meaning only you, since you're only speaking for yourself) doesn't have the wit to understand the depth and complexity of my style of argumentation.

[Seth]

You started it, I'll finish it. If you want to apologize, I'll apologize and let it go. If you keep on trying to excuse yourself, I'm going to keep at you till you go away, because that's MY right as the one insulted. In the old days, we'd be having our seconds call upon one another to arrange a duel, which you would lose. You should thank your lucky stars that we live in a civilized society.

Seth would like to kill you for insulting him. Lucky we live in a civilized society that prevents him from doing so without going to jail for life.

A duel is a fair fight, and it tends to make society a more polite place. Pity they don't allow it any more, the world would be a better place without fuckwits who think that they can do or say anything they like without consequence.

Ah well, the good old days are gone, so we'll just have to thrust and parry with words instead. That'll do I suppose.

Well, in that case, be glad they don't allow it. You'd be a dead man.

Ya think? I don't. I'm confident in my skills, and I don't insult people until they've insulted me first.

[Jason]

have the wit to understand the depth and complexity of my style of argumentation.

[Jason]

So long as seth continues to be a hypocritical moron, I'll continue to call him a moron.

Best to let us deal with this. We're on the case ...

Weee! 24 hours suspensions for everyone who's participated in this thread.

[Seth]

A real context, not brags and insults, you two.

It is real context. Strangely, with all that ammunition and all those guns I've not killed a single school child with any of it, and all of it is 100 percent intended and to be used for protecting the innocent and defenseless.

I'm sorry, but did you just describe yourself in some role approximating that of a police officer?

Yup. "Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence." Sir Robert Peel, Founder, London Metropolitan Police, the model for every modern law enforcement agency in the civilized world today.

That would be the unarmed British Police Service, Seth. Any chance you might join an unarmed police service?

It wasn't unarmed until about 1921 when Britain started banning handguns. Before then, concealed handguns were quite common in the UK.

And the point is not what tools one carries, it's where the authority to enforce the law emanates from. Here's a clue: it doesn't emanate from government, because government authority is derived from the consent of the governed, and only from their consent, and all authority emanates from the People to begin with, including the authority to enforce the law, which authority is granted to government on a co-equal basis, it is not abdicated by the People to the government.

In short, government is the servant of the people and has only that power and authority granted to it by the people, a grant which may be revoked at the will of the people and an authority which may be exercised by the people because it is theirs to begin with.

[Gallstones]

You started it, I'll finish it. If you want to apologize, I'll apologize and let it go. If you keep on trying to excuse yourself, I'm going to keep at you till you go away, because that's MY right as the one insulted. In the old days, we'd be having our seconds call upon one another to arrange a duel, which you would lose. You should thank your lucky stars that we live in a civilized society.

Seth would like to kill you for insulting him. Lucky we live in a civilized society that prevents him from doing so without going to jail for life.

A duel is a fair fight, and it tends to make society a more polite place. Pity they don't allow it any more, the world would be a better place without fuckwits who think that they can do or say anything they like without consequence.

Ah well, the good old days are gone, so we'll just have to thrust and parry with words instead. That'll do I suppose.

Well, in that case, be glad they don't allow it. You'd be a dead man.

Getting way carried away now.
Please stop.

[Blind groper]

And I can chide anyone I want, because the First Amendment says so.

There are limits to freedom of speech. Slander, libel and defamation cases can and do get prosecuted in American law courts. But above and beyond that is the simple rule of courtesy. Kristie is generally very polite and restrained, and does not deserve to be treated in the way you routinely treat others. That is, with a total lack of courtesy or respect.

[Seth]

So long as seth continues to be a hypocritical moron, I'll continue to call him a moron.

Best to let us deal with this. We're on the case ...

'Bout time. Where the hell have you been?

[Seth]

And I can chide anyone I want, because the First Amendment says so.

There are limits to freedom of speech. Slander, libel and defamation cases can and do get prosecuted in American law courts. But above and beyond that is the simple rule of courtesy. Kristie is generally very polite and restrained, and does not deserve to be treated in the way you routinely treat others. That is, with a total lack of courtesy or respect.

Yup, and one of the causes of action in libel and slander is telling a lie about someone in a public forum.

And Kristie deserves what she got because she succumbed to her baser impulses and joined in the personal attacks on me. Her actions were wrong and she deserved to get spanked for them. If she (and you) act like rational adults and lay off the personal insults, then we'll all get along just fine. Otherwise things can get very nasty indeed...until the mods finally get off their asses and do something.

I've said before that once the insults start I'm not going to sit silently by and be insulted and maligned without responding in kind.

Courtesy is as courtesy does. If you're courteous, I will be courteous as well. It's up to you.

[Seth]

I am NOT saying that your position that large capacity magazines are something you feel are inappropriate for civilians to possess is an improper opinion to hold. That's a rational political and ethical position to hold.

What's your point? It can be rational and ethical and still be wrong, which it is.

[Jason]

Ya think? I don't. I'm confident in my skills, and I don't insult people until they've insulted me first.

Perhaps. But as you'd issue the challenge, I'd have choice of weapons. I choose wiffleball bats at 10 paces.

[Jason]

Getting way carried away now.
Please stop.

Very well. I apologize Seth. Not that I didn't mean what I said, but I don't like the way this thread is going as a result of my venting (even if it did feel good to do it).

[Svartalf]

So long as seth continues to be a hypocritical moron, I'll continue to call him a moron.

Best to let us deal with this. We're on the case ...

Weee! 24 hours suspensions for everyone who's participated in this thread.

What did I do again?

[Kristie]

Getting way carried away now.
Please stop.

Very well. I apologize Seth. Not that I didn't mean what I said, but I don't like the way this thread is going as a result of my venting (even if it did feel good to do it).

Don't fucking apologize to him! If the mods were doing their jobs he would've been gone by now!