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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Seth » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:39 pm

Făkünamę wrote:Gallstones who, for reasons unknown to me, actually likes you and thinks you're a decent person.
That's because she's a mature, adult, intelligent and nice person.

What the fuck are you, because it ain't that.
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Kristie » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:41 pm

Seth wrote:
Kristie wrote:
Seth wrote:
Kristie wrote:Well, everyone else is getting away with deliberate insults, so I may as well join in the fun.
You can think whatever you want of me. The opinion of someone like you is worthless to me.
Same here.
No. Don't ever compare yourself with me. I have made one insulting post like that, ever! And, it was nothing compared to what you and Gallstones do on a regular basis.
Then act like an adult and refrain from posting personal insults. You know full well that's what you were doing. I amplified your insult precisely to make a point. It offended you. It was intended to offend you because you offended me. You had no call to make the comment you did and you know it, you were just mad. Well, now you know how it feels to be called something nasty without there being any basis in reality.

I'm a mirror of your own behavior, which was entirely uncalled for and improper. When you debate fairly and rationally, so do I, but don't ever expect me to let snide insults like you posted pass unnoticed, because I won't. It's my right and obligation to bring it into stark focus when people do such things, in no small part as a matter of fairness.

Any reasonable person would understand that my insult was pure reactive hyperbole intended to make a point. Of course you're not a bitch or a cunt or anything else. I'm quite certain that you're a perfectly nice and honest person with whom I'd be happy to associate, but that's not how you were acting, so I made a point of bringing this to your and everyone else's attention.

Just because I argue a contrarian and controversial point of view that you don't like doesn't mean that I'm an evil person, it just means that I have the capacity to consider the question from the other side of the debate and the skill to argue my point well. If you respect me, I'll respect you, even if I disagree with your arguments, and I expect the same from you and everyone else.

So grow up and start acting like you have some sense and quit acting like a petulant child and we'll get along fine.
Someone else made the comment. I just voiced my agreement. You didn't attack them, only me. And only a petulant child thinks that just because someone said something not nice about you that you have to one up them and be even more rude than they were.
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Seth » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:41 pm

Blind groper wrote:To Kristie

You have a beautiful mind and are a very worthwhile human being. That is more than I can say for Seth, who has stated he is willing to shoot someone dead without even bothering to ascertain whether his victim is a threat to him, or not.
And you're a fucking liar.
Seth has also stated he does not value democracy and has no respect for the wishes of the majority, as long as his own selfish emotional needs are catered to, no matter how many people are hurt or killed as a result.
And you are still a fucking liar.
by comparison, Kristie, you are a saint.
Compared to you, everybody's a saint.
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Jason » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:43 pm

Seth wrote:
Făkünamę wrote:Gallstones who, for reasons unknown to me, actually likes you and thinks you're a decent person.
That's because she's a mature, adult, intelligent and nice person.

What the fuck are you, because it ain't that.
Someone who knows what he's talking about and doesn't dismiss the ergonomics of an assault weapon as 'cosmetic' or for 'comfort'. Moron.

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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Seth » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:48 pm

Kristie wrote:
Seth wrote:
Kristie wrote:
Seth wrote:
Kristie wrote:Well, everyone else is getting away with deliberate insults, so I may as well join in the fun.
You can think whatever you want of me. The opinion of someone like you is worthless to me.
Same here.
No. Don't ever compare yourself with me. I have made one insulting post like that, ever! And, it was nothing compared to what you and Gallstones do on a regular basis.
Then act like an adult and refrain from posting personal insults. You know full well that's what you were doing. I amplified your insult precisely to make a point. It offended you. It was intended to offend you because you offended me. You had no call to make the comment you did and you know it, you were just mad. Well, now you know how it feels to be called something nasty without there being any basis in reality.

I'm a mirror of your own behavior, which was entirely uncalled for and improper. When you debate fairly and rationally, so do I, but don't ever expect me to let snide insults like you posted pass unnoticed, because I won't. It's my right and obligation to bring it into stark focus when people do such things, in no small part as a matter of fairness.

Any reasonable person would understand that my insult was pure reactive hyperbole intended to make a point. Of course you're not a bitch or a cunt or anything else. I'm quite certain that you're a perfectly nice and honest person with whom I'd be happy to associate, but that's not how you were acting, so I made a point of bringing this to your and everyone else's attention.

Just because I argue a contrarian and controversial point of view that you don't like doesn't mean that I'm an evil person, it just means that I have the capacity to consider the question from the other side of the debate and the skill to argue my point well. If you respect me, I'll respect you, even if I disagree with your arguments, and I expect the same from you and everyone else.

So grow up and start acting like you have some sense and quit acting like a petulant child and we'll get along fine.
Someone else made the comment. I just voiced my agreement.

You didn't attack them, only me.
I'll get around to it, I've been busy. And voicing your agreement is exactly the same as making the comment, so you're just as culpable. You got what was coming to you because of your response to my saying "fuck you too," which you fully deserved. When you tried to excuse your nasty, childish behavior, I decided to one-up you and amplify what you did so perhaps you would see the error of your ways.
And only a petulant child thinks that just because someone said something not nice about you that you have to one up them and be even more rude than they were.
I will not respect you. I do not need nor want your respect.
So your suggestion is that I just ignore your insult? Sorry, not on the Internet. It's necessary to respond to calumnies every time lest they gain credibility by virtue of silence on the part of the one impugned. If you don't like getting what you served up and more, then act like an adult. That you're so upset about what I said is proof positive that I hit a nerve with my comments, which is exactly what I intended to do. You don't get to hurl insults and slurs about and get away without consequences. Since the mods here won't give you any, I will, because it's my reputation you are slandering and I won't let that pass unremarked upon.

You started it, I'll finish it. If you want to apologize, I'll apologize and let it go. If you keep on trying to excuse yourself, I'm going to keep at you till you go away, because that's MY right as the one insulted. In the old days, we'd be having our seconds call upon one another to arrange a duel, which you would lose. You should thank your lucky stars that we live in a civilized society.
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Jason » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:52 pm

So long as seth continues to be a hypocritical moron, I'll continue to call him a moron.

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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by klr » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:53 pm

Făkünamę wrote:So long as seth continues to be a hypocritical moron, I'll continue to call him a moron.
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Jason » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:54 pm

Seth wrote: You started it, I'll finish it. If you want to apologize, I'll apologize and let it go. If you keep on trying to excuse yourself, I'm going to keep at you till you go away, because that's MY right as the one insulted. In the old days, we'd be having our seconds call upon one another to arrange a duel, which you would lose. You should thank your lucky stars that we live in a civilized society.
Seth would like to kill you for insulting him. Lucky we live in a civilized society that prevents him from doing so without going to jail for life.

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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Seth » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:58 pm

Făkünamę wrote:
Seth wrote:
Făkünamę wrote:Gallstones who, for reasons unknown to me, actually likes you and thinks you're a decent person.
That's because she's a mature, adult, intelligent and nice person.

What the fuck are you, because it ain't that.
Someone who knows what he's talking about and doesn't dismiss the ergonomics of an assault weapon as 'cosmetic' or for 'comfort'. Moron.
That's exactly what it is. It doesn't make any substantial difference in a close-range murder of five year olds, which could be just as "lethal" if it were done with a stocked semi-automatic rifle or a can of gasoline.

Armed with an M-14, or a Ruger Mini-14, or any of a dozen different semi-automatic rifles in caliber .223 the carnage would have been just the same. The problem is not the appearance of the weapon or even it's function, it's that nobody else in the whole school had the tools necessary to stop him from shooting ANY kind of gun. He could have done the same thing with handguns, including a couple of six-round revolvers and a bunch of speed loaders. It takes me less than three seconds to reload a Smith & Wesson Model 19, and Jerry Miculek holds the world's record for firing 12 rounds in less than three seconds with a reload.

So to say that a pistol grip on a rifle increases the "lethality" is simply ignorant. It doesn't. It may increase shooting comfort and it may enhance handling and accuracy, but the "lethality" is inherent in the ammunition, not the rifle.



Fuckwit.
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Seth » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:58 pm

Făkünamę wrote:So long as seth continues to be a hypocritical moron, I'll continue to call him a moron.
And so long as you continue to act like a fuckwit, I'll call you a fuckwit, fuckwit.
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Blind groper » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:59 pm

Seth wrote: Fuckwit.
Seth

How can you chide Kristie as you did in the previous post, when you use language like this all the time?

You are a hypocrite of the worst kind.
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Seth » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:01 am

Făkünamę wrote:
Seth wrote: You started it, I'll finish it. If you want to apologize, I'll apologize and let it go. If you keep on trying to excuse yourself, I'm going to keep at you till you go away, because that's MY right as the one insulted. In the old days, we'd be having our seconds call upon one another to arrange a duel, which you would lose. You should thank your lucky stars that we live in a civilized society.
Seth would like to kill you for insulting him. Lucky we live in a civilized society that prevents him from doing so without going to jail for life.
A duel is a fair fight, and it tends to make society a more polite place. Pity they don't allow it any more, the world would be a better place without fuckwits who think that they can do or say anything they like without consequence.

Ah well, the good old days are gone, so we'll just have to thrust and parry with words instead. That'll do I suppose.
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Seth » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:03 am

Blind groper wrote:
Seth wrote: Fuckwit.
Seth

How can you chide Kristie as you did in the previous post, when you use language like this all the time?

You are a hypocrite of the worst kind.
I was first insulted by him, so I'm doing the same thing I did to Kristie, giving better than I get.

Don't insult me and act like a fuckwit and I won't be compelled to point it out.

And I can chide anyone I want, because the First Amendment says so. :razzle:
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Jason » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:03 am

Seth wrote:the "lethality" is inherent in the ammunition, not the rifle.
Incorrect. Lethality of any weapon in a given situation is a combination of that weapon's suitability to that situation which is a function of the ergonomics of that weapon, the shooter's ability to bring the weapon on target which is a function of the shooter's ability and the ergonomics of the weapon, the placement of shots which is function of the ergonomics of the weapon, the shooter's ability, and the equipped optics, the rate of accurate fire the shooter is able to sustain which is a function of the ergonomics of the weapon, the shooter's ability, and the equipped optics, and finally, and least important, the ammunition used.
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