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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Guy_Montag » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:06 am

Hey Gallstones, when did you last have your mental health checked out?

Personally I've never had mine checked out, but that doesn't mean that it's safe for me to have a gun.

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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Gallstones » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:15 am

Guy_Montag wrote:Hey Gallstones, when did you last have your mental health checked out?

Personally I've never had mine checked out, but that doesn't mean that it's safe for me to have a gun.
That isn't any of your business.
But anyway, the next "check" will be Wednesday morning MST.

I've been through the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act background check five times in the past 2.5 years. Last one was in late October this year.

Feel better?
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Gallstones » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:17 am

Kristie wrote:
Gallstones wrote:And stop lying about me--I claimed none of those things.
You said you were poor. Do you know the definition of poor? :ask:
Do you?

Is establishing some agreement on the definition of "poor" pertinent to the thread?

How about this for a definitive answer...
It is none of your business.

I only seem to humor you.
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by JimC » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:18 am

Gallstones wrote:
Guy_Montag wrote:Hey Gallstones, when did you last have your mental health checked out?

Personally I've never had mine checked out, but that doesn't mean that it's safe for me to have a gun.
That isn't any of your business.
But anyway, the next "check" will be Wednesday morning MST.

I've been through the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act background check five times in the past 2.5 years. Last one was in late October this year.

Feel better?
How compulsory is that check for gun owners?

How confident are you that it can do anything in terms of preventing violent psychopaths getting the hands on guns and turning another American school into a charnel house?
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Gallstones » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:19 am

JimC wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Rum wrote:The price of the freedom to own machines which fire little pellets of alloy so fast they can kill people is that you tolerate those little pellets killing people at a level most of the world finds breathtakingly puzzling and staggeringly stupid.

However I doubt that this blind spot in your national psyche is going to change much at all in the near future.

Fools.
Do you think freedom came free? No one gave their life for the liberty you enjoy and take for granted today?
Soldiers, sailors and airmen legitimately employed by a government were a vital part of ensuring western freedom, sure - none of us is running a pacifist or anti-military or law enforcement angle... In WW2, people in the armed forces gave their lives in what was arguably a just war.

Selfish civilian gun freaks have nothing whatsoever to preserving liberty, and everything to do with enabling sick fucks to shoot little children.
Can't back off the hyperbole can you?
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by JimC » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:21 am

No hyperbole, straight unvarnished opinion...

One shared by most of the civilised world...
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Kristie » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:22 am

Gallstones wrote:
Kristie wrote:
Gallstones wrote:And stop lying about me--I claimed none of those things.
You said you were poor. Do you know the definition of poor? :ask:
Do you?

Is establishing some agreement on the definition of "poor" pertinent to the thread?

How about this for a definitive answer...
It is none of your business.

I only seem to humor you.
Of course I do. You claimed to be poor. I disagree. No biggie. Not pertinent specifically to this thread, just to your credibility and grasp on reality.
Yes, I do find you fucking hilarious, but not in a complimentary way.

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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Gallstones » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:30 am

JimC wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Guy_Montag wrote:Hey Gallstones, when did you last have your mental health checked out?

Personally I've never had mine checked out, but that doesn't mean that it's safe for me to have a gun.
That isn't any of your business.
But anyway, the next "check" will be Wednesday morning MST.

I've been through the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act background check five times in the past 2.5 years. Last one was in late October this year.

Feel better?
How compulsory is that check for gun owners?

Depends on the State.
Each and every point of purchase in some--each and every when going through an FFL holder.
Not at all for some private sales in some states.


JimC wrote:How confident are you that it can do anything in terms of preventing violent psychopaths getting the hands on guns and turning another American school into a charnel house?
Violent psychopaths are probably not going to utilyze the BHVPA--although the call in check is done even for long guns and non-sale transfers.

I'm not a psychopath. I have no urges of turning a school into a charnel house, I have no urge to kill anyone. I don't even stomp bugs or spiders. I am not a gun runner and I have complied with what the law asks of me. So I will not be made complicit in what some psychopath does somewhere, sometime and I don't accept being treated as if I might maybe someday commit a criminal act and therefore I should be prohibited from exercising my 2nd Amendment Rights.

You might, maybe, someday say something importunate and upset some person therefore you can't be trusted to speak. You should have to prove you deserve that privilage before you can have it.
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Gallstones » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:31 am

Kristie wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Kristie wrote:
Gallstones wrote:And stop lying about me--I claimed none of those things.
You said you were poor. Do you know the definition of poor? :ask:
Do you?

Is establishing some agreement on the definition of "poor" pertinent to the thread?

How about this for a definitive answer...
It is none of your business.

I only seem to humor you.
Of course I do. You claimed to be poor. I disagree. No biggie. Not pertinent specifically to this thread, just to your credibility and grasp on reality.
Yes, I do find you fucking hilarious, but not in a complimentary way.
Yay.
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by cronus » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:33 am

He was addicted to Call of Duty. :coffee:
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Kristie » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:35 am

Gallstones wrote:
Kristie wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Kristie wrote:
Gallstones wrote:And stop lying about me--I claimed none of those things.
You said you were poor. Do you know the definition of poor? :ask:
Do you?

Is establishing some agreement on the definition of "poor" pertinent to the thread?

How about this for a definitive answer...
It is none of your business.

I only seem to humor you.
Of course I do. You claimed to be poor. I disagree. No biggie. Not pertinent specifically to this thread, just to your credibility and grasp on reality.
Yes, I do find you fucking hilarious, but not in a complimentary way.
Yay.
You're not suspended yet? :bored:

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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Warren Dew » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:40 am

sandinista wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
orpheus wrote:Something else just occurred to me. To those who contend that guns are not the problem; that people would just kill with other implements: why don't we see those incidents then? If there's nothing special about guns, we should also see comparable numbers of murders and mass murders from other weapons. But we don't.

Wonder why that is.
You really think the guy would not have killed his parents with knife or baseball bat before trying to turn on the kids if he'd had no gun available? think again, the nut is the cause.
Don't blame the implement for doing its job too well.
I doubt he would have used a bat or knife. Killing someone with a gun from a distance is a lot...a lot different than killing someone up close with a knife or bat. Even if he did kill his folks the chance he kills that many people...children...with a knife or bat is highly unlikely. The implement shares the blame, no doubt. That doesn't mean I am FOR gun control either.
Apparently when knives are the easiest weapon to use, the spree killers prefer younger children:

"Large knives and cleavers are found in nearly every Chinese kitchen. Experts say that because the assailants haven't gotten hold of guns, strictly controlled in China, they have tended to go after victims who are the most vulnerable."

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/13 ... k-20100513

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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Gallstones » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:43 am

Kristie wrote: You're not suspended yet? :bored:
Might as well make it worth my while.

I don't consider you a person. You are just another unpleasant persona in Flat Land.
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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Kristie » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:47 am

Gallstones wrote:
Kristie wrote: You're not suspended yet? :bored:
Might as well make it worth my while.

I don't consider you a person. You are just another unpleasant persona in Flat Land.
I'm flattered you find insulting me worth being suspended. For a non-person, I sure do get a lot of emotion outta you!

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Re: 27 dead at Connecticut school, including 14 kids

Post by Warren Dew » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:48 am

orpheus wrote:Something else just occurred to me. To those who contend that guns are not the problem; that people would just kill with other implements: why don't we see those incidents then? If there's nothing special about guns, we should also see comparable numbers of murders and mass murders from other weapons. But we don't.
Actually, we do. Check out how melee weapons are the preferred weapons for mass murder in Oceania:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ra ... s:_Oceania

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