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Re: Holy crap, Republicans are idiots!

Post by JimC » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:20 am

Contraception is part of responsible sexual behaviour, Seth. If education and other measures were improved, it would make abortion a much rarer event...
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Re: Holy crap, Republicans are idiots!

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:15 am

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Post by Tero » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:15 pm

It's the genes talking when teens have sex. They do not have free will.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:16 pm

Tero wrote:It's the genes talking when teens have sex. They do not have free will.
Sadly, some of them don't have free won't.
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Post by Tyrannical » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:38 pm

JimC wrote:Contraception is part of responsible sexual behaviour, Seth. If education and other measures were improved, it would make abortion a much rarer event...
Sex leading to pregnancy was only a mystery to aborigines, who blamed it on the kangaroo spirits. Unless we're dealing with an ignorant indigenous tribe, they are already aware what causes pregnancy.
What we need to stop doing is subsidizing irresponsible behavior by rewarding them with free housing and money. Perhaps dormitories for unmarried women with children where they learn basic childcare while performing farm work.
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Re: Holy crap, Republicans are idiots!

Post by Tero » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:41 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Tero wrote:It's the genes talking when teens have sex. They do not have free will.
Sadly, some of them don't have free won't.
That's the parents' part. Lock them up. Use burka for girls.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:41 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
JimC wrote:Contraception is part of responsible sexual behaviour, Seth. If education and other measures were improved, it would make abortion a much rarer event...
Sex leading to pregnancy was only a mystery to aborigines, who blamed it on the kangaroo spirits. Unless we're dealing with an ignorant indigenous tribe, they are already aware what causes pregnancy.
That's not true. Without education even "Western" kids get pregnant without knowing why. This is not a secret, it's well known. Try to catch up.
What we need to stop doing is subsidizing irresponsible behavior by rewarding them with free housing and money. Perhaps dormitories for unmarried women with children where they learn basic childcare while performing farm work.
Yeah, let the babies die. That will teach the teenaged parents to be more careful in the future. Don't bother teaching them what to be careful about or how to be careful.
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Re: Holy crap, Republicans are idiots!

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:42 pm

Tero wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Tero wrote:It's the genes talking when teens have sex. They do not have free will.
Sadly, some of them don't have free won't.
That's the parents' part. Lock them up. Use burka for girls.
That's a much better idea than teaching them what's what before they are old enough to find out by accident, isn't it?
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Post by aspire1670 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:11 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
JimC wrote:Contraception is part of responsible sexual behaviour, Seth. If education and other measures were improved, it would make abortion a much rarer event...
Sex leading to pregnancy was only a mystery to aborigines, who blamed it on the kangaroo spirits. Unless we're dealing with an ignorant indigenous tribe, they are already aware what causes pregnancy.
What we need to stop doing is subsidizing irresponsible behavior by rewarding them with free housing and money. Perhaps dormitories for unmarried women with children where they learn basic childcare while performing farm work.
Seth channeling troll fail and you'll never get your hand pregnant, Boreannical, even if you take your glove off.
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Post by Robert_S » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:30 pm

JimC wrote:Contraception is part of responsible sexual behaviour, Seth. If when education and other measures were are improved, it would makes abortion a much rarer event...
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Post by Tyrannical » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:48 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:
What we need to stop doing is subsidizing irresponsible behavior by rewarding them with free housing and money. Perhaps dormitories for unmarried women with children where they learn basic childcare while performing farm work.
Yeah, let the babies die. That will teach the teenaged parents to be more careful in the future. Don't bother teaching them what to be careful about or how to be careful.
They already know about safe-sex. The problem is they also know how getting pregnant can set them up with free housing and benefits to live off of, and more kids equals a bigger check. What was once a safety net to catch the truly down on their luck is now just a trampoline that they take advantage of.
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Re: Holy crap, Republicans are idiots!

Post by Svartalf » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:46 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Tero wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Tero wrote:It's the genes talking when teens have sex. They do not have free will.
Sadly, some of them don't have free won't.
That's the parents' part. Lock them up. Use burka for girls.
That's a much better idea than teaching them what's what before they are old enough to find out by accident, isn't it?
teaching them? you want to deprive innocent children of what makes them precious and corrupt them at an age when they can't understand it anyway? Shame on you.
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Post by Robert_S » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:50 pm

Whyis it that the Republican states tend to be the poorer wit the higher rates of teen pregnancy, teen sex, STDs, illiteracy... These conservative principles: you can make them sound good, but in practice they tend to not work very well.

Sure, we shouldn't need to fund abortions when there are other options available. But people, especially young one, fall into a one track mindset when those hormones kick in. It's the price we have to pay for having a long line of ancestors, every last one of which fucked at some point in their lives.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by Thinking Aloud » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:56 pm

Robert_S wrote:It's the price we have to pay for having a long line of ancestors, every last one of which fucked at some point in their lives.
You could trot this out every time someone opposes evolution claiming that the odds are so against it that it can't possibly happen - reply "Yeah, but what are the odds that your parents actually had sex? It's almost impossible to believe, isn't it? And yet ..."

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Re: Holy crap, Republicans are idiots!

Post by Seth » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:39 pm

aspire1670 wrote:
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MrJonno wrote:If you don't fund an abortion at £/$1000 you will end up funding an unwanted kid at a million.

Don't need to be the greatest economic to work out what the best way of spending public money is
Strange isn't it how teenage pregnancy rates literally skyrocketed immediately after "The Pill" was released on the market, and prior to that time, getting knocked up outside of wedlock was a matter of shame and humiliation, which public opprobrium convinced most girls to keep their panties on and knees together until they had a ring on their finger and a husband to support their child.

In other words, once again you've got the cart before the horse.

It is the existence of contraceptives and abortions that CAUSE unwanted kids to be born. People think they can just have sex whenever they like if only they have a pill and an abortion available.

Take both away and we'll see a return to much more responsible sexual behavior and therefore fewer unwanted kids.
Or people could follow your example and stick to masturbation, Seth.
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