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Holy crap, Republicans are idiots!

Post by Gerald McGrew » Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:57 pm

Likely Increase in Births Has Some Lawmakers Revisiting Cuts

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When [Texas] state lawmakers passed a two-year budget in 2011 that moved $73 million from family planning services to other programs, the goal was largely political: halt the flow of taxpayer dollars to Planned Parenthood clinics.
Yes, ideology and buzzword driven policy. "Planned Parenthood is evil and we must do everything we can to stop Satan's abortion factories!!" But what happens when ideology doesn't match reality? With conservatives, they tend to just deny reality.
The latest Health and Human Services Commission projections being circulated among Texas lawmakers indicate that during the 2014-15 biennium, poor women will deliver an estimated 23,760 more babies than they would have, as a result of their reduced access to state-subsidized birth control. The additional cost to taxpayers is expected to be as much as $273 million — $103 million to $108 million to the state’s general revenue budget alone — and the bulk of it is the cost of caring for those infants under Medicaid.
Gee, really? Who could have guessed that cutting funding to clinics that provide family planning services to mostly poor women would result in increased births and overall costs? Oh wait...there was no need to guess...
The health agency’s numbers, while alarming to some state lawmakers, are not unexpected. Last legislative session, while lawmakers debated the cuts, the nonpartisan Legislative Budget Board estimated that they would lead 284,000 women to lose family planning services, resulting in 20,000 additional unplanned births at a cost to taxpayers of $231 million. The cuts passed anyway, a price that socially conservative legislators were willing to pay in their referendum on Planned Parenthood.
So they were told what would happen, cut family planning funding anyways, and are now acting all surprised at the outcome? Idiots, pure and simple. And they still haven't learned a damned thing...
Any such agreement would almost certainly exclude Planned Parenthood from future financing. Though the Planned Parenthood clinics that used to provide state-subsidized care never performed abortions, Republican lawmakers are enforcing rules in the state’s family planning programs that ban providers “affiliated” with clinics that perform abortions. (By this logic, because some Planned Parenthood clinics provide abortions, none of them can receive state money.)
Fucking ideology-driven, reality-denying, theocratic morons. That's your Republican party folks.
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Post by Seth » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:04 pm

Texans don't want to subsidize abortion and Planned Parenthood is well known for lying, cheating, funging money all over the place and providing illegal abortions to underage girls and refusing to report the underlying sexual assault on a child as required by law, so it's perfectly reasonable to deny it funding so long as PP continues to misuse state money to fund their abortion clinics.

Hopefully some other family planning group not involved in abortion will get set up and start offering family planning and women's services and Texas can then subsidize them.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:08 pm

Nice bunch of lies you got there. Raise them yourself?
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Post by Tero » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:30 pm

Seth wrote:Texans don't want to subsidize abortion and Planned Parenthood is well known for lying, cheating, funging money all over the place and providing illegal abortions to underage girls and refusing to report the underlying sexual assault on a child as required by law, so it's perfectly reasonable to deny it funding so long as PP continues to misuse state money to fund their abortion clinics.

Hopefully some other family planning group not involved in abortion will get set up and start offering family planning and women's services and Texas can then subsidize them.
Data on PP?

I have yet to see details of the verbal contract authorizing Zimmerman to poke around all over his private gated community.

You make all kinds of claims, then accuse others of pulling data out of thei ass.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:37 pm

Seth don't do facts. He does bald assertions.
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Post by Seth » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:53 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Nice bunch of lies you got there. Raise them yourself?
Nope, heard the tapes made by an undercover client posing as an underage pregnant teen at several different PP abortion clinics. Read their denials, which are lies. Seen the videos of PP workers violating mandatory reporting laws.

All public domain, go look it up.
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Seth don't do facts. He does bald assertions.
All you have to do is do a Google search and you'll find plenty of information.
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Post by Seth » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:55 pm

Tero wrote:
Seth wrote:Texans don't want to subsidize abortion and Planned Parenthood is well known for lying, cheating, funging money all over the place and providing illegal abortions to underage girls and refusing to report the underlying sexual assault on a child as required by law, so it's perfectly reasonable to deny it funding so long as PP continues to misuse state money to fund their abortion clinics.

Hopefully some other family planning group not involved in abortion will get set up and start offering family planning and women's services and Texas can then subsidize them.
Data on PP?
Here's one of thousands of links:
I have yet to see details of the verbal contract authorizing Zimmerman to poke around all over his private gated community.

You make all kinds of claims, then accuse others of pulling data out of thei ass.
Go look it up.
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Post by Tero » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:02 pm

None found. He was asked to do something. No details available.

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Post by macdoc » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:28 pm

nothing new there - 100% Texas brand bullshit....the real mccoy :coffee:
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Post by Tero » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:58 pm

Seth wrote:
Here's one of thousands of links:
There's nothing there about performing the abortion. They violated not reporting sex with a 31 year old.

So there is no evidence on abortion presented that holds up in court.

Here, 107 charges trickled sown to one illegal late term abortion
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Post by Gerald McGrew » Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:29 pm

When ideology is more important than reality...
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Post by DaveDodo007 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:21 am

Seth.
I really don't get why you are against this? We all have mothers and most of us have either/all sisters, daughters, nieces, aunts and wives or girlfriends of course. The health of everyone is important but child bearing adds another issue in all this, so unless you have a religious objection to paying for the health care of 50% of any countries population then I don't see where you are coming form?
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Post by JimC » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:47 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:Seth.
I really don't get why you are against this? We all have mothers and most of us have either/all sisters, daughters, nieces, aunts and wives or girlfriends of course. The health of everyone is important but child bearing adds another issue in all this, so unless you have a religious objection to paying for the health care of 50% of any countries population then I don't see where you are coming form?
He has an objection to the government paying anything to help anybody...

The weird thing is that he thinks there are other people who share his obsessional delusions... :dunno:
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Post by Azathoth » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:50 am

JimC wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:Seth.
I really don't get why you are against this? We all have mothers and most of us have either/all sisters, daughters, nieces, aunts and wives or girlfriends of course. The health of everyone is important but child bearing adds another issue in all this, so unless you have a religious objection to paying for the health care of 50% of any countries population then I don't see where you are coming form?
He has an objection to the government paying anything to help anybody...

The weird thing is that he thinks there are other people who share his obsessional delusions... :dunno:
Unfortunately there are :sigh:
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