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Re: White Male Victims: Boo-Fucking-Hoo

Post by Gallstones » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:43 am

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hadespussercats wrote:But I find the videos themselves underproduced, poorly delivered and dull as dirt.
It's a webcam post, not a Hollywood production. What does it matter, how well produced it is? The nature of the beast (video blogging) is precisely what she delivers.
hadespussercats wrote:Ill-advised, ill-spoken snoozefest 2012.
Evidence, please. If you don't like her, fair dos... but ill-advised? As for ill-spoken... it is obvious that she writes a script and reads it aloud to the webcam. In that regard, they can be considered lacking a certain "oomph", as they lack spontaneity... but she makes her point well (whether you agree with her or not).
It matters because if a person produces videos one wants people to want to watch them.

As hades has said--I too find her boooooring and an unispiring snoozefest.
She just hasn't the talent to move; she just blathers.
She is producing [safely :coffee: ] for her choir.
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Re: White Male Victims: Boo-Fucking-Hoo

Post by Gallstones » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:44 am

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Gallstones wrote: But hey, whatever fluffs one's pigeon.
Even if it's coo coo? :mrgreen:
Especially if.
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Re: White Male Victims: Boo-Fucking-Hoo

Post by hadespussercats » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:46 am

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Red Celt wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:But I find the videos themselves underproduced, poorly delivered and dull as dirt.
It's a webcam post, not a Hollywood production. What does it matter, how well produced it is? The nature of the beast (video blogging) is precisely what she delivers.
hadespussercats wrote:Ill-advised, ill-spoken snoozefest 2012.
Evidence, please. If you don't like her, fair dos... but ill-advised? As for ill-spoken... it is obvious that she writes a script and reads it aloud to the webcam. In that regard, they can be considered lacking a certain "oomph", as they lack spontaneity... but she makes her point well (whether you agree with her or not).
It matters because if a person produces videos one wants people to want to watch them.

As hades has said--I too find her boooooring and an unispiring snoozefest.
She just hasn't the talent to move; she just blathers.
Actually, I meant to add a thought about this comment--

Red Celt, you consistently post work you've done on the fly for consideration on these forums. Everything you've done has been at a higher level in terms of production quality than what she's cranking out. Why do you bother, if it isn't important?
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Re: White Male Victims: Boo-Fucking-Hoo

Post by Gallstones » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:57 am

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Robert_S wrote:The article does make a couple points though:

You don't get to blame the person for your upset at them not being attracted to you. That's goes for all genders though.
The thing is, one thing to which rationality can't really be ascribed is love. People do "blame" the other person in matters of love. People get upset and cry, even though the other person hasn't done a single thing wrong or blameworthy and may have been nothing but kind, caring and considerate. I recall a pre-She Who Must Be Obeyed relationship I had with a woman I "reconnected" with online after many years apart. We had never had a sexual relationship before, but we got to corresponding and chatting online and found we had some things in common that we didn't know about before. Then we found some sexual tension building online. We lived far apart, and there came a time when I was going to be in the area for unrelated reasons, and we talked about getting together and spending the night together. Sex was openly discussed -- there was not any mystery or wonder - we both said we wanted to have sex. Now, I made it literally -- abundantly -- openly -- expressly clear that our relationship couldn't go past that for many reasons -- we lived too far apart, I would never want to move to her area - for reasons in her life, it would be near impossible for her move - and frankly, we only had an online relationship, and that is much different (far more conducive to building sexual suspense and longing than in-person relationships).

So, we got together and had a great time one weekend. We kept in touch, and I kept the communications casual. We still knocked around online, and we talked about when happenstance would let us get together again. But, she started sending me things. Cards. Things she made. And, stuff like that. Then talked about getting together again, but the reason for me coming back to the area disappeared - it was a business reason, that had gotten canceled. So, I had to call and say that unfortunately, I couldn't make it. She got very, very upset with me. Eventually, I had to break it off completely, because what started as an express agreement between the two of us to keep it strictly casual didn't work. She wanted more. And, she kept pushing. She was really, sincerely hurt, because her feelings developed in a way that she did not anticipate, or she figured that once I found out how awesome she was, my feelings would change.

I wasn't "to blame," but her feelings didn't make her "predatory" either. It happens in love. Sometimes it hurts, even when someone didn't do something wrong, and unrequited love making someone upset is not wrong or predatory.
This is the most poignant thing I have ever read that you have written.
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Re: White Male Victims: Boo-Fucking-Hoo

Post by Gallstones » Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:28 am

hadespussercats wrote:
laklak wrote:All women are predators. That's why they apply fake blood to their claws and lips.
Fake?
Poisoned even.
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Re: White Male Victims: Boo-Fucking-Hoo

Post by Cormac » Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:03 am

hadespussercats wrote:
Cormac wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
Cormac wrote:And can we stop using the word "gender" as if it refers to people? The word is "sex", as in "people of both sexes", or "the male sex or female sex".

"Gender". What a load of bollox.
Gender refers to behavior, and personal and social identity.

Sex refers to physical / biological characteristics.

When you come up with a better word for the first-- so good it'll catch on after thirty-odd years of the other one being in common parlance-- maybe we'll stop using it.
Gender is a grammatical term.

It was coopted by the so-called equality movement, primarily because they were squeamish about the word sex. All the rest was added afterwards - in terms of the behaviour, and personal and social identity stuff.

It is commonly used today to refer to male and female. You see it on forms regularly - Gender: Male/Female. It is used in this very thread in that manner.

It's usage in this context just rubs me up the wrong way. It seems clumsy to me, like a square peg rammed into a round hole. It is as bad, to me, as Xhe and all that other bollox.

:dunno:
"Gender" was once solely a grammatical term. It was borrowed a long time ago to fill in a space in our language for ideas of sex that relate more to identity than to physical characteristics. There's no other word for what "gender" has come to mean.

I don't mind being flexible with language, when it yields such useful results.

Still, I also get irritated when people confuse the two terms. For instance, back when I was pregnant, people would always ask me if we'd found out the baby's gender. Saying, "Well, it's a boy-- but his gender's still up for grabs," got me a lot of looks. But it was true-- for all I knew at the time, I could have been brewing a little trans woman in there.

Only a little over a year in, I already have a pretty strong sense that he's a boy, inside and out. But it's smart not to take these things for granted. :D

I understand the distinction you're making H. I just hate the cooption of the word gender to that purpose. I'm aware of all the arguments underpinning it and the whole edifice of feminist theory that goes with it. (My primary degreed was 50% English Literature. English Literature back then was shorthand for feminist "theory"). It isn't that I am missing some key piece information.

I just have a tendency to rail against things I find nonsensical. Sometimes it means that I'm pushing back against the headlong rush of culture. I'm quite aware that this makes me a bit of a malcontent, and a lot of an idiot. But, Eye Yam what Eye Yam.
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Re: White Male Victims: Boo-Fucking-Hoo

Post by Red Celt » Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:53 am

hadespussercats wrote:Red Celt, you consistently post work you've done on the fly for consideration on these forums. Everything you've done has been at a higher level in terms of production quality than what she's cranking out. Why do you bother, if it isn't important?
I just don't get the anti sentiment wrt GirlWritesWhat, that's all. She's a Canadian waitress who shares her views and then has those thoughts repeated in colleges and schools across America. It's an accomplishment... and, well, I've seen much worse on YouTube. 8-)
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Re: White Male Victims: Boo-Fucking-Hoo

Post by orpheus » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:59 am

hadespussercats wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:You know, I just thought of another "nice guy gets a pass" movie scenario-- "Philadelphia Story"

I know a lot of people who think Katherine Hepburn chose the wrong guy. In fact, I used to be one of them. But then i realized, "Wait. it's a choice between Jimmy Stewart, or getting stupped regularly by Cary Grant. Um. This is a choice?"

:hehe:
Ya see -- there it is! It boils down to the cocks!

That's why human males have the largest cocks relative to their bodies of any primate, because they've been sexually selected by women for cock size. A secondary characteristic of guys with big cocks is confidence. No fear in swinging that thing around if it's bigger than the average, right? So, women equate confidence with a big cock. Ergo, confident men get more tail, because the women are expecting huge cock.

Thus, the "nice guy", if he is lacking in confidence and is hence needy and clingy, this implies to the perusing female a distinct lack of penis.

Extrapolating this to our analysis of the Duckman -- when he is needy and clingy, ringing fire alarms, driving his bike back and forth, he comes across as severely nervous and lacking in confidence. This implies that he would not be comfortable swinging his penis around. Blaine, on the other hand, is rich kid, BMW drivin', confident at other rich people parties. His confidence quotient is exponentially increased, however, because Andy is very nervous and uncomfortable around Blaine, especially in public, because she feels embarrased, etc. So, relatively speaking, Andy unconsciously suspects Blaine's Johnson is gargantuan, with a set of billiard balls to go along with it.

So, using our powers of deduction, we easily see that Duckman will not get in Andy's pants, due the perception that he is hung like an elevator button. Blaine will get to throw her the high hard one, because he is perceived as packing 70 mm Howitzer in his pants.

It's elementary, my dear Hades. :prof:

EDIT TO ADD: This also explains why at the end the Duckman suddenly becomes attractive to the blonde hottie whose panties moisten at the mere sight of him. Why? Because dressed like he was at the prom -- with ducktail hairdo, wild and crazy tuxedo, weird "duckman" shoes, and all that -- I mean - to walk into the prom dressed like that -- one would have to have a confidence quotient times 10. Most people would expect to be beaten up if they walked into a high school prom like that. Not the Duckman. He walked in, head held high, and was in full confidence mode as events went down at the prom. So, from the blonde's perspective, she would unconsciously suspect the Duckman would have some serious muscle under the hood. It's evolution in action!
Cary Grant doesn't need a big cock. He's Cary Grant.

Of course, he probably also had a big cock. I don't know for sure, but... he was Cary Grant, after all. The radio on that plane in North by Northwest had to zero in on something. :naughty:

But I agree with you about confidence being a big turn on. Honestly, I think that might be why some guys think it's (ahem) sexy minxes that get the chicks (have you caught the filter joke yet?)

They're not assholes, necessarily. They're just confident. Maybe even a bit... cocky. That's hot. Especially when it's a genuinely nice guy who's doing it.
Such as Cary Grant. Excellent example, I think. Good-looking man, certainly, but there are lots of those. But his level of self-confident charm - that's rare, and that's what made him so attractive.

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Re: White Male Victims: Boo-Fucking-Hoo

Post by Gallstones » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:16 am

Red Celt wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:Red Celt, you consistently post work you've done on the fly for consideration on these forums. Everything you've done has been at a higher level in terms of production quality than what she's cranking out. Why do you bother, if it isn't important?
I just don't get the anti sentiment wrt GirlWritesWhat, that's all. She's a Canadian waitress who shares her views and then has those thoughts repeated in colleges and schools across America. It's an accomplishment... and, well, I've seen much worse on YouTube. 8-)
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Gallstones wrote:Not everyone has your taste and not everyone will like what you like.
I don't get why you don't get that.
I don't like brussel sprouts... but I'm not anti brussel sprouts. I don't have a problem with people not sharing my tastes. I'm just confused by the supposed reasons for being anti this particular video blogger, as the reasons seem rather empty.
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Post by Robert_S » Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:14 am

Red Celt wrote:
Gallstones wrote:Not everyone has your taste and not everyone will like what you like.
I don't get why you don't get that.
I don't like brussel sprouts... but I'm not anti brussel sprouts. I don't have a problem with people not sharing my tastes. I'm just confused by the supposed reasons for being anti this particular video blogger, as the reasons seem rather empty.
But it's about her ideas and attitudes about sex and gender which she intends to spread, which kinda makes it everyone's business. I think it's more the attitudes that get under people's skin. Also, something about her is vaguely annoying, but she appeals to my desire to have a bit of moral high ground, which I'm not entirely comfortable with.

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What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: White Male Victims: Boo-Fucking-Hoo

Post by hadespussercats » Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:40 pm

Cormac wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
Cormac wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
Cormac wrote:And can we stop using the word "gender" as if it refers to people? The word is "sex", as in "people of both sexes", or "the male sex or female sex".

"Gender". What a load of bollox.
Gender refers to behavior, and personal and social identity.

Sex refers to physical / biological characteristics.

When you come up with a better word for the first-- so good it'll catch on after thirty-odd years of the other one being in common parlance-- maybe we'll stop using it.
Gender is a grammatical term.

It was coopted by the so-called equality movement, primarily because they were squeamish about the word sex. All the rest was added afterwards - in terms of the behaviour, and personal and social identity stuff.

It is commonly used today to refer to male and female. You see it on forms regularly - Gender: Male/Female. It is used in this very thread in that manner.

It's usage in this context just rubs me up the wrong way. It seems clumsy to me, like a square peg rammed into a round hole. It is as bad, to me, as Xhe and all that other bollox.

:dunno:
"Gender" was once solely a grammatical term. It was borrowed a long time ago to fill in a space in our language for ideas of sex that relate more to identity than to physical characteristics. There's no other word for what "gender" has come to mean.

I don't mind being flexible with language, when it yields such useful results.

Still, I also get irritated when people confuse the two terms. For instance, back when I was pregnant, people would always ask me if we'd found out the baby's gender. Saying, "Well, it's a boy-- but his gender's still up for grabs," got me a lot of looks. But it was true-- for all I knew at the time, I could have been brewing a little trans woman in there.

Only a little over a year in, I already have a pretty strong sense that he's a boy, inside and out. But it's smart not to take these things for granted. :D

I understand the distinction you're making H. I just hate the cooption of the word gender to that purpose. I'm aware of all the arguments underpinning it and the whole edifice of feminist theory that goes with it. (My primary degreed was 50% English Literature. English Literature back then was shorthand for feminist "theory"). It isn't that I am missing some key piece information.

I just have a tendency to rail against things I find nonsensical. Sometimes it means that I'm pushing back against the headlong rush of culture. I'm quite aware that this makes me a bit of a malcontent, and a lot of an idiot. But, Eye Yam what Eye Yam.
Gender isn't just a feminist issue. Clearly you haven't spent that much time with gender-dysmorphic folks. It's not nonsense.
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hadespussercats wrote:
Gender isn't just a feminist issue. Clearly you haven't spent that much time with gender-dysmorphic folks. It's not nonsense.
That kind of identity dysmorphia is a physical fact of nature. I fully support the right of anyone to fully live their true selves. I would never suggest, and never have suggested that it is nonsense!

I just don't like the use of the word gender in any sense beyond the grammatical.

It is a simple foible, and one heavily laden with pedantry...
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Post by hadespussercats » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:19 am

Cormac wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
Gender isn't just a feminist issue. Clearly you haven't spent that much time with gender-dysmorphic folks. It's not nonsense.
That kind of identity dysmorphia is a physical fact of nature. I fully support the right of anyone to fully live their true selves. I would never suggest, and never have suggested that it is nonsense!

I just don't like the use of the word gender in any sense beyond the grammatical.

It is a simple foible, and one heavily laden with pedantry...
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:09 pm

hadespussercats wrote: I thought he was hiding that he was Jewish? :mrgreen:
On American TV back in the day, Jews had to pretend to be Italian... lol

hadespussercats wrote: I kid. I kid.
But do you remember him dancing the hora, as though it were the hot new dance craze of the fifties? That was pretty funny.


hadespussercats wrote: Now I'm really trying to restrain myself about making a crack about living in the attic above the garage...
And, he was like 19 years old living above the garage, and yet he still had a line of chicks down the street waiting to get in! Must've been that confidence and big cock thing...

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