Re: Unarmed teen shooting: the debate trickles on...

Post by **klr** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:48 pm

FBM wrote:Zimm's invoking "God's plan" now. Fuck him. Let him hang.

http://view.koreaherald.com/kh/view.php ... 0719001264

Post by **Seth** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:54 am

More evidence that Zimmerman was justified in shooting Martin:

“This is a photo of George Zimmerman taken by a police officer on the night of February 26, 2012. A black and white photocopy of this image was provided by the State in the first Discovery. This high-resolution digital file was finally provided to the defense on October 29, 2012,” the defense team posted to its website.

“This image was disclosed in the State’s 9th Supplemental Discovery. In accordance with the updates to our media policy that we published on November 13, we will be making all public documents related to the case available on our website, including the rest of the State’s 9th Supplemental Discovery as soon as we are sure it has been properly redacted according to the Court’s stipulations on protecting information regarding specific witnesses,” the post adds.

Source: The Blaze

Post by **FBM** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:14 am

Well, that's not very ambiguous.

Post by **Tero** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:39 am

Nice mugshot of idiot who could not stay inside his car.

Post by **Coito ergo sum** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:39 pm

Tero wrote:Nice mugshot of idiot who could not stay inside his car.

In all fairness, he did have as much right to be outside of his vehicle as anyone else, didn't he?

Post by **FBM** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:11 pm

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/03/justi ... ?hpt=hp_t3

Post by **amused** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:07 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Tero wrote:Nice mugshot of idiot who could not stay inside his car.
In all fairness, he did have as much right to be outside of his vehicle as anyone else, didn't he?

Yes, but he did not have the right to fabricate a violent confrontation in order to justify murder.

Post by **Coito ergo sum** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:15 pm

amused wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Tero wrote:Nice mugshot of idiot who could not stay inside his car.
In all fairness, he did have as much right to be outside of his vehicle as anyone else, didn't he?
Yes, but he did not have the right to fabricate a violent confrontation in order to justify murder.

...and, the proof he did that is.....?

It would seem to me that unless Zimmerman initiated the physical confrontation, there would be no justification for Martin to get physical. Simply asking Martin what he was doing in the neighborhood is not "fabricating a violent confrontation," even if Zimmerman was being a dick about it.

Post by **amused** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:26 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
amused wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Tero wrote:Nice mugshot of idiot who could not stay inside his car.
In all fairness, he did have as much right to be outside of his vehicle as anyone else, didn't he?
Yes, but he did not have the right to fabricate a violent confrontation in order to justify murder.
...and, the proof he did that is.....?

It would seem to me that unless Zimmerman initiated the physical confrontation, there would be no justification for Martin to get physical. Simply asking Martin what he was doing in the neighborhood is not "fabricating a violent confrontation," even if Zimmerman was being a dick about it.

Yes it is.

Post by **Coito ergo sum** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:47 pm

Absolutely it is not.

Unless you are willing to afford folks like Zimmerman the same right. Are you? If a black guy gets out of his car, follows you and asks what you're doing around their, a white guy can attack him?

Post by **Gawdzilla Sama** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:05 pm

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 0738.story

Post by **Coito ergo sum** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:19 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 0738.story

The White Guy is in jail, and up on murder charges. Unless the kid in the car pulled a gun on him first, he's going down.

Post by **Gawdzilla Sama** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:55 pm

I sympathize with the fed-up guy.

Post by **Coito ergo sum** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:58 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I sympathize with the fed-up guy.

Seems like in your example, both sides could claim fed-up-ness.

Post by **Gawdzilla Sama** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:09 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I sympathize with the fed-up guy.
Seems like in your example, both sides could claim fed-up-ness.

Fine, but I don't drive a boombox.

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