Is the Chinese system of Govt better than Western Democracy?

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Re: Is the Chinese system of Govt better than Western Democr

Post by Warren Dew » Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:23 pm

aspire1670 wrote:
I think I overestimate the value American people put in freedom and democracy. Conformity and stability are more important to them, and thanks to an ever expanding economy have been successful in keeping the masses content.
Agreed.

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Re: Is the Chinese system of Govt better than Western Democr

Post by Cormac » Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:31 pm

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Cormac wrote:Fuck that. I won't live in a dictatorship.
I wouldn't call it a dictatorship, at least not in the European or South American model. A corrupt oligarchy backed by a military whose leaders also have their snouts in the trough, perhaps...

Dictatorial oligarchy. On the ground - no difference.

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Re: Is the Chinese system of Govt better than Western Democr

Post by Cormac » Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:33 pm

Tyrannical wrote:I think we overestimate the value Chinese people put in freedom and democracy. Conformity and stability are more important to them, and thanks to an ever expanding economy have been successful in keeping the masses content.

"The masses content". That says it all.
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Re: Is the Chinese system of Govt better than Western Democr

Post by Rum » Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:56 pm

I think stability is the leadership's watchword. If the ethnic rivalries and tensions ever became as active as they have in other parts of the world the place would be a potential powder keg. The Han Chinese are in control and will want to keep it that way.

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Re: Is the Chinese system of Govt better than Western Democr

Post by Jason » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:26 pm

Chinese democracy! :yayay:

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Re: Is the Chinese system of Govt better than Western Democr

Post by Warren Dew » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:13 pm

Rum wrote:I think stability is the leadership's watchword. If the ethnic rivalries and tensions ever became as active as they have in other parts of the world the place would be a potential powder keg. The Han Chinese are in control and will want to keep it that way.
Part of how they stay in control is by giving ethnic minorities special privileges.

Kind of like the US, come to think of it.

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Re: Is the Chinese system of Govt better than Western Democr

Post by Seth » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:36 am

Rum wrote:One of their main advantages is the ability to plan ten years at a time ahead and not be too bothered about the next round of elections. This is their major Ace in the current global game in my view.
Except that central planning, one year or ten, never works and never can work, as F.A. Hayek pointed out brilliantly in "The Road to Serfdom.

All central planning does is plan how the corruptocrats in power are going to suck the wealth out of the peasantry for the next 10 years.

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Re: Is the Chinese system of Govt better than Western Democr

Post by Drewish » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:32 am

In a dictatorship, if things suck it's the leader's fault. In a democracy it's your neighbor's fault.
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Re: Is the Chinese system of Govt better than Western Democr

Post by Svartalf » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:57 am

My neighborss suck for voting corrupt morons in, then again the corrupt morons suck at least as much as my neigbours
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