German city dumping OpenOffice for Microsoft

[pErvinalia]

Pico or gtfo.

pico or nano are my preferred command line editors. I never really liked vi.

Yeah, me neither. I don't think I've ever used pico, but have used and like nano a fair bit.

[amused]

... I use Office 2010 in work and find it (by far) the most infuriating incarnation of Office yet. I struggle to find its most basic features. It took me 10 mins to find "save as".

WTF?

It's under File>Save As where it's always been.

I love Office 2010 and especially Word. It now has save to PDF built in. I also have the Adobe Creative Suite and I'm glad that all these programs have moved to the ribbon concept where the toolbars across all programs in a suite are similar in layout. Once you grok how they are thinking about tool layout, it makes it much easier to work in several programs within a suite. I've tried all the freeware alternates to the programs I use, and the paid versions are just better.

[klr]

... I use Office 2010 in work and find it (by far) the most infuriating incarnation of Office yet. I struggle to find its most basic features. It took me 10 mins to find "save as".

WTF?

It's under File>Save As where it's always been.

I love Office 2010 and especially Word. It now has save to PDF built in. I also have the Adobe Creative Suite and I'm glad that all these programs have moved to the ribbon concept where the toolbars across all programs in a suite are similar in layout. Once you grok how they are thinking about tool layout, it makes it much easier to work in several programs within a suite. I've tried all the freeware alternates to the programs I use, and the paid versions are just better.

Something that OpenOffice had well before MS Office.

And I've found that in order to make sense of where stuff is on ribbons, you need to force yourself to think in a non-intuitive way.

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I've worked with some of the most complicated graphics programs out there - 3D animation, motion graphics, and video editing. It's your job to learn the 'approach' to the program that the software designers created for you. There's usually a common thread, with oddities that are just, oddities. The only things that enrage me are the ones that crash the program itself, which are usually fixed in the next bugfix, and which usually generate new bugs. Once I find a stable version I stick with it until hell freezes over.

[Pappa]

... I use Office 2010 in work and find it (by far) the most infuriating incarnation of Office yet. I struggle to find its most basic features. It took me 10 mins to find "save as".

WTF?

It's under File>Save As where it's always been.

Yeah, you'd think so. Except it wasn't.

Finding the "Print" button in Outlook 2010 was quite a challenge too. Overall, the layout of Office 2010 is a fucking mess.

[amused]

... I use Office 2010 in work and find it (by far) the most infuriating incarnation of Office yet. I struggle to find its most basic features. It took me 10 mins to find "save as".

WTF?

It's under File>Save As where it's always been.

Yeah, you'd think so. Except it wasn't. ...

Word, Excel, Powerpoint - all have it there. What strange land are you working in?

[Pappa]

... I use Office 2010 in work and find it (by far) the most infuriating incarnation of Office yet. I struggle to find its most basic features. It took me 10 mins to find "save as".

WTF?

It's under File>Save As where it's always been.

Yeah, you'd think so. Except it wasn't. ...

Word, Excel, Powerpoint - all have it there. What strange land are you working in?

You are using 2010?

[Animavore]

I love 2010. Best Office by far. Everything is just there for you.

[Azathoth]

I've worked with some of the most complicated graphics programs out there - 3D animation, motion graphics, and video editing. It's your job to learn the 'approach' to the program that the software designers created for you. There's usually a common thread, with oddities that are just, oddities. The only things that enrage me are the ones that crash the program itself, which are usually fixed in the next bugfix, and which usually generate new bugs. Once I find a stable version I stick with it until hell freezes over.

You are wrong there. It is the job of a UI designer to assume the users are slack jawed morons who cant read or use a mouse and need something that functions quickly, easily and intuitively for basic tasks.

[amused]

... I use Office 2010 in work and find it (by far) the most infuriating incarnation of Office yet. I struggle to find its most basic features. It took me 10 mins to find "save as".

WTF?

It's under File>Save As where it's always been.

Yeah, you'd think so. Except it wasn't. ...

Word, Excel, Powerpoint - all have it there. What strange land are you working in?

You are using 2010?

Yup.



(I accidentally dragged Excel from here to the desktop instead of creating a shortcut, but it's the same.)

[Animavore]

Yep. File > Save here too.

[Animavore]

[Pappa]

Yup.



(I accidentally dragged Excel from here to the desktop instead of creating a shortcut, but it's the same.)

On Windows 7? I must admit I find 7's removal/hiding of the standard Windows app functionality to be quite disorienting.

[amused]

Yup.



(I accidentally dragged Excel from here to the desktop instead of creating a shortcut, but it's the same.)

On Windows 7? I must admit I find 7's removal/hiding of the standard Windows app functionality to be quite disorienting.

Yes, Windows 7.

Maybe there's a toolbar that needs to be showing?

[Animavore]

Yup.



(I accidentally dragged Excel from here to the desktop instead of creating a shortcut, but it's the same.)

On Windows 7? I must admit I find 7's removal/hiding of the standard Windows app functionality to be quite disorienting.

Yes, Windows 7.

Maybe there's a toolbar that needs to be showing?

Even if the toolbar isn't showing the file tab does the same.