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Galaxy may be full of 'Earths,' alien life

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:32 am

Galaxy may be full of 'Earths,' alien life

(CNN) -- As NASA prepares to hunt for Earth-like planets in our corner of the Milky Way galaxy, there's new buzz that "Star Trek's" vision of a universe full of life may not be that far-fetched.
An artist's impression shows a planet passing in front of its parent star. Such events are called transits.
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Pointy-eared aliens traveling at light speed are staying firmly in science fiction, but scientists are offering fresh insights into the possible existence of inhabited worlds and intelligent civilizations in space.

There may be 100 billion Earth-like planets in the Milky Way, or one for every sun-type star in the galaxy, said Alan Boss, an astronomer with the Carnegie Institution and author of the new book "The Crowded Universe: The Search for Living Planets."

He made the prediction based on the number of "super-Earths" -- planets several times the mass of the Earth, but smaller than gas giants like Jupiter -- discovered so far circling stars outside the solar system.

Boss said that if any of the billions of Earth-like worlds he believes exist in the Milky Way have liquid water, they are likely to be home to some type of life.

"Now that's not saying that they're all going to be crawling with intelligent human beings or even dinosaurs," he said.

"But I would suspect that the great majority of them at least will have some sort of primitive life, like bacteria or some of the multicellular creatures that populated our Earth for the first 3 billion years of its existence."

Putting a number on alien worlds

Other scientists are taking another approach: an analysis that suggests there could be hundreds, even thousands, of intelligent civilizations in the Milky Way.

Researchers at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland constructed a computer model to create a synthetic galaxy with billions of stars and planets. They then studied how life evolved under various conditions in this virtual world, using a supercomputer to crunch the results.
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• The Milky Way is believed to be more than 13 billion years old.

• It is just one of billions of galaxies in the universe.

• The Milky Way has a circumference of about 250,000-300,000 light years.

• It is about 100,000 light years in diameter.

• There are three types of galaxies: ellipticals, spirals and irregulars.

• The Milky Way is a large disk-shaped barred spiral galaxy. (A barred galaxy has a bar-shaped structure in its middle.)

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In a paper published recently in the International Journal of Astrobiology, the researchers concluded that based on what they saw, at least 361 intelligent civilizations have emerged in the Milky Way since its creation, and as many as 38,000 may have formed.

Duncan Forgan, a doctoral candidate at the university who led the study, said he was surprised by the hardiness of life on these other worlds.

"The computer model takes into account what we refer to as resetting or extinction events. The classic example is the asteroid impact that may have wiped out the dinosaurs," Forgan said.

"I half-expected these events to disallow the rise of intelligence, and yet civilizations seemed to flourish."

Forgan readily admits the results are an educated guess at best, since there are still many unanswered questions about how life formed on Earth and only limited information about the 330 "exoplanets" -- those circling sun-like stars outside the solar system -- discovered so far.

The first was confirmed in 1995 and the latest just this month when Europe's COROT space telescope spotted the smallest terrestrial exoplanet ever found. With a diameter less than twice the size of Earth, the planet orbits very close to its star and has temperatures up to 1,500° Celsius (more than 2,700° Fahrenheit), according to the European Space Agency. It may be rocky and covered in lava.

Hunt for habitable planets

NASA is hoping to find much more habitable worlds with the help of the upcoming Kepler mission. The spacecraft, set to be launched from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida next week, will search for Earth-size planets in our part of the galaxy.
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Kepler contains a special telescope that will study 100,000 stars in the Cygnus-Lyra region of the Milky Way for more than three years. It will look for small dips in a star's brightness, which can mean an orbiting planet is passing in front it -- an event called a transit.

"It's akin to measuring a flea as it creeps across the headlight of an automobile at night," said Kepler project manager James Fanson during a during a NASA news conference.

The focus of the mission is finding planets in a star's habitable zone, an orbit that would ensure temperatures in which life could exist. Video Watch a NASA scientist explain the search for habitable planets »

Boss, who serves on the Kepler Science Council, said scientists should know by 2013 -- the end of Kepler's mission -- whether life in the universe could be widespread.

Finding intelligent life is a very different matter. For all the speculation about the possibility of other civilizations in the universe, the question remains: If the rise of life on Earth isn't unique and aliens are common, why haven't they shown up or contacted us? The contradiction was famously summed up by the physicist Enrico Fermi in 1950 in what became known as the Fermi paradox: "Where is everybody?"

The answer may be the vastness of time and space, scientists explained.

"Civilizations come and go," Boss said. "Chances are, if you do happen to find a planet which is going to have intelligent life, it's not going to be in [the same] phase of us. It may have formed a billion years ago, or maybe it's not going to form for another billion years."

Even if intelligent civilizations did exist at the same time, they probably would be be separated by tens of thousands of light years, Forgan said. If aliens have just switched on their transmitter to communicate, it could take us hundreds of centuries to receive their message, he added.

As for interstellar travel, the huge distances virtually rule out any extraterrestrial visitors. iReport.com: Share your view of the universe
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To illustrate, Boss said the fastest rockets available to us right now are those being used in NASA's New Horizons mission to Pluto. Even going at that rate of speed, it would take 100,000 years to get from Earth to the closest star outside the solar system, he added.

"So when you think about that, maybe we shouldn't be worried about having interstellar air raids any time soon," Boss said.
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Re: Galaxy may be full of 'Earths,' alien life

Post by Ian » Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:55 am

I plan on cracking open a nice bottle of wine on March 5th when the Kepler Mission is launched. :clap:

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:59 am

Ian wrote:I plan on cracking open a nice bottle of wine on March 5th when the Kepler Mission is launched. :clap:
What do you think about the joint Russian-Chinese Mars mission? :what:
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Post by Trolldor » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:06 am

Commies in space?


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born-again-atheist wrote:Commies in space?


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You're about 50-some years late.
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Post by Trolldor » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:28 am

:nono:

I meant as a premise for a sitcom.
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born-again-atheist wrote::nono:

I meant as a premise for a sitcom.
Okay, that might fly in Oz.
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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:51 pm

Can I haz my own planet yet? :begging:
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Post by Feck » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:15 pm

There may be 100 billion Earth-like planets in the Milky Way ! Can we discover some life soon please I want to Troll Creotards with the info !
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:21 pm

Feck wrote:There may be 100 billion Earth-like planets in the Milky Way ! Can we discover some life soon please I want to Troll Creotards with the info !
"...and the discovery of life on other planets proves the existence of God."
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:28 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Feck wrote:There may be 100 billion Earth-like planets in the Milky Way ! Can we discover some life soon please I want to Troll Creotards with the info !
"...and the discovery of life on other planets proves the existence of God."
Religion is like economics. It adapts with every new fact uncovered to keep the high-priests in their jobs. :smoke:
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:30 pm

Crumple wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Feck wrote:There may be 100 billion Earth-like planets in the Milky Way ! Can we discover some life soon please I want to Troll Creotards with the info !
"...and the discovery of life on other planets proves the existence of God."
Religion is like economics. It adapts with every new fact uncovered to keep the high-priests in their jobs. :smoke:
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:36 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
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Gawdzilla wrote:
Feck wrote:There may be 100 billion Earth-like planets in the Milky Way ! Can we discover some life soon please I want to Troll Creotards with the info !
"...and the discovery of life on other planets proves the existence of God."
Religion is like economics. It adapts with every new fact uncovered to keep the high-priests in their jobs. :smoke:
"Economics is very very good at telling us where the economy has been."
Religion does the same with God but his current whereabouts is always a big mystery just like the economy. :smoke:
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Post by Audley Strange » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:49 pm

Galaxy may be full of 80 foot clones of Simon Cowell dedicated to eating the psychic farts of The Rasprerry Jelly People.

May just means "making shit up". It's funny because with NASA they have to play down their imaginings and groups like the NSA they exaggerate them wildly.

Hmm perhaps Nasa could get funding if it hoaxed a small alien incursion....
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