The US fiscal cliff - would it really be a bad thing?

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Re: The US fiscal cliff - would it really be a bad thing?

Post by Seth » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:59 pm

laklak wrote:Yep, they purposely kicked the can down the road till after the election. They'll likely do the same thing again. Which is good, in some ways. Gives people more time to convert debased cash assets to something real. Cigarettes, alcohol, toilet paper and ammunition will be currencies of choice.

I hope there will be zombies.
Primers. Primers are the critical path component of ammunition. Shell casings are commonplace and impossible to control, and can be easily manufactured. Gunpowder can be made at home, going right back to black powder if necessary. Bullets can be hand-cast using a bullet mould and a fire.

But primers are precision components that are very difficult to manufacture at home. Merely making the friction sensitive charge is difficult and dangerous, much less making the cups, anvils and then assembling them.

Buy lots and lots of primers as soon as possible because all the government has to do to limit domestic ammunition production is to take control of the manufacture and distribution of primers.
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Re: The US fiscal cliff - would it really be a bad thing?

Post by Seth » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:04 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
amused wrote:Except.... This situation was intentionally created in late 2010 in order to force a compromise in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, a term coined later. Both sides knew that one or the other will have won this recent election, giving one side or the other the ability to lead. Now they are here and Obama gets to lead the process.
Who cares?

The fiscal cliff is not the catastrophe they're making it out to be.

Oh, there will be big, draconian spending cuts? Good!

If that happens, i'll take the tax increases. I've had it. Fuck it.

It's time we took our medicine.

If I were the Republicans, I would agree to the marginal federal tax rate increase on incomes over $250,000 a year in exchange for agreed upon and immediately implemented spending cuts - if anything is "left to be hammered out in the future" do not trust the Democrats, because you'll never get the spending cuts. However, if they can get a real spending cut that really reduces the deficit by, say 25% or more, then agree to it. And, I don't mean a "reduction in projected future spending increases..." I mean less money spent in 2013, than in 2012. That - we either cut the budget, or drive the bus over the so-called cliff.
I agree. Start with terminating the employment of 50% of the federal workforce by random lot.

What we need now is for the states to call a Constitutional Convention for the purposes of amending the Constitution with a Balanced Budget Amendment...or an amendment to the Commerce Clause that would restrict Congress' role in regulating "trade among the several states" to that of arbiter of complaints regarding interstate commerce brought before Congress by, and only by the legislatures of one or more States and which voids all laws and regulations passed under the previous Commerce Clause authority and jurisprudence.

By amending the Commerce clause in that way, about 90 percent of the federal government would cease to exist instantly.
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Post by amused » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:10 pm

I'm in DC now, so the bigger the federal workforce, the better. All the construction cranes in the air here are manna to architects like me. Build it and they will come! A lot of new condos going up, gotta house all those people somewhere.

The capitol is like a big breast sticking up...

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amused wrote:I'm in DC now, so the bigger the federal workforce, the better. All the construction cranes in the air here are manna to architects like me. Build it and they will come! A lot of new condos going up, gotta house all those people somewhere.

The capitol is like a big breast sticking up...
...for the dependent class to suckle at.

And therein lies the problem.
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Re: The US fiscal cliff - would it really be a bad thing?

Post by Tero » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:31 pm

:rollin: I mean :funny:
Setup for Seth.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:42 pm

One can never suckle at the teat too long...

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Post by Tero » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:48 pm

I hope that's her kid. Or a photoshop kid.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:59 pm

Tero wrote:I hope that's her kid. Or a photoshop kid.
I was just thinking, "lucky kid."

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:02 pm

I heard that the Democrats are proposing a new kind of government largess that will replace "suckling at the government tit" ---

It's called "government premastication." The government will now not only provide your food for you, but chew it for you too:

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Post by amused » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:11 pm

Tero wrote::rollin: I mean :funny:
Setup for Seth.
I just set them up....

We'll be here until Tuesday folks, try the veal.

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Re: The US fiscal cliff - would it really be a bad thing?

Post by laklak » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:11 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
laklak wrote:I think it would be a good thing. Run the fucking bus off the cliff, we're all Bozos on it anyway.
My shoes are inflated.
Squeeze the wheeze. Everybody likes to.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: The US fiscal cliff - would it really be a bad thing?

Post by amused » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:13 pm

laklak - you Sarasota people are so mean!
The Herald-Tribune reports on the latest in Sarasota's long running war on the homeless, arresting a man for using a public charging station to charge a phone. "In 2006, Sarasota was called the “meanest city” in the nation by the National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty and the National Coalition for the Homeless..."
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Re: The US fiscal cliff - would it really be a bad thing?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:24 pm

amused wrote:laklak - you Sarasota people are so mean!
The Herald-Tribune reports on the latest in Sarasota's long running war on the homeless, arresting a man for using a public charging station to charge a phone. "In 2006, Sarasota was called the “meanest city” in the nation by the National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty and the National Coalition for the Homeless..."
http://boingboing.net/2012/11/15/saraso ... ested.html

Not enough information provided.

1. What kind of charging station is this? Is it free and open to the public? If so, why would he not be allowed to use it? If not, how could he use it without paying?

2. Is it only for cars, or something? Or, was it for exclusive use of city government workers and he broke in somewhere?

Something is missing from this story. If it's a charging station like a gas pump, then you have to pay for the charge with a credit card or something. If it isn't a charging station that requires payment at the pump, then it most likely a private use or government use electric charging station, and therefore the unauthorized use of it probably also involves some sort of trespassing in addition to the theft of the electricity.

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Re: The US fiscal cliff - would it really be a bad thing?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:08 pm

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I, therefore, intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt." - John Boehner. :{D :awesanta:

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Re: The US fiscal cliff - would it really be a bad thing?

Post by amused » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:36 pm

Excepting the current bailout debt, all the big recent upswings in debt are by Republicans:

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Fucking hypocrites.
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