Election Day, USA!

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Post by Jason » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:44 am

Hmm I meant to write 'create' and not 'great' there. I seem to be making those kinds of mistakes a lot lately. :?

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Re: Election Day, USA!

Post by JimC » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:49 am

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So, for Romney to be LESS attractive to Republicans tells me there was something seriously wrong with him as the nominee.
From the outside, they seem a very internally polarised party - perhaps it was the moderate republicans who wen't "meh" on election day, and couldn't quite bring themselves to vote for him, so they stayed home...

And maybe some older, conservative christians who view Mormonism as an aberrant cult...
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Post by Warren Dew » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:50 am

JimC wrote:
CES wrote:

So, for Romney to be LESS attractive to Republicans tells me there was something seriously wrong with him as the nominee.
From the outside, they seem a very internally polarised party - perhaps it was the moderate republicans who wen't "meh" on election day, and couldn't quite bring themselves to vote for him, so they stayed home...

And maybe some older, conservative christians who view Mormonism as an aberrant cult...
The moderate Republicans were the ones who were volunteering to work 19 hours on election day for Romney.

I think the religious right didn't really care for him; certainly Santorum gave him an endorsement that sounded a lot more like a nonendorsement. It's possible that the independents, who favored Romney by a large margin, also decided the election wasn't important enough to show up for.

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Post by Tero » Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:11 am

It's rare for independents to show up in numbers, either way, either candidate.

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Post by Warren Dew » Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:45 am

Warren Dew wrote:
JimC wrote:
CES wrote:

So, for Romney to be LESS attractive to Republicans tells me there was something seriously wrong with him as the nominee.
From the outside, they seem a very internally polarised party - perhaps it was the moderate republicans who wen't "meh" on election day, and couldn't quite bring themselves to vote for him, so they stayed home...

And maybe some older, conservative christians who view Mormonism as an aberrant cult...
The moderate Republicans were the ones who were volunteering to work 19 hours on election day for Romney.

I think the religious right didn't really care for him; certainly Santorum gave him an endorsement that sounded a lot more like a nonendorsement. It's possible that the independents, who favored Romney by a large margin, also decided the election wasn't important enough to show up for.
I was wrong about the Religious Right. It took a while to look in the right place, but once I looked the answer was obvious.

Romney's vote was actually up from McCain's, in absolute terms, in almost every swing state. The exception was Ohio, where it was down slightly, but McCain's number would still not have been enough to win there.

So basically Romney's lost voters didn't matter. They were in nonswing states. For all we know, they might have been making calls to swing states for Romney's turnout effort.

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Re: Election Day, USA!

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:02 pm

That fact that ~50,000,000 people voted against Obama proves that old saying.
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Post by Warren Dew » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:36 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:That fact that ~50,000,000 people voted against Obama proves that old saying.
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and you can fool all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

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Re: Election Day, USA!

Post by Jason » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:07 am

"Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice... shame.. shame on.. We can't get fooled again."

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