U.K. is not a synonym of England

[Jason]

I attempted to get Red Celt to argue against Scottish independence by introducing arguments why Scotland has been subsumed by England rule and having him argue against me. I think I've done that. One more vote against Scottish independence.

Now off to do some work.

[Red Celt]

I only need address the single point you attempted to make there: An English monarch sits on the Throne of Scotland. /thread

All the rest is so much stuff.

Do try harder.

So the defining factor of whether a country should be referenced by it's name or the name of the area with the largest land mass or largest population is decided upon the nationality of the head of state?

Y'know, when realising that you've been wrongly identifying the U.K. with the name of one of the countries of the U.K., you had two options: you could have learned from the information and acknowledged your error(s), or you could hurl out as much nonsense as possible in order to justify your error(s).

The world would be a much better place if more people could learn to take the tiniest hit to their self-esteem and recognise their mistakes, rather than hold onto them as passionately as possible.

Call me an idealist.

[Red Celt]

I attempted to get Red Celt to argue against Scottish independence by introducing arguments why Scotland has been subsumed by England rule and having him argue against me. I think I've done that. One more vote against Scottish independence.

Now off to do some work.

Translation: trying to justify being so wrong, by introducing a sub-plot.

Jesus fuck, man.

[laklak]

All y'all are Limeys.

[HomerJay]

Who is the King of Ireland?

Brian?

Or is it Elizabeth, just not recognised?

Slippery Salmond has said Elizabeth can remain monarch after succession, so it would still be the United Queendom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Ireland and Commonwealth and Guernsey and Jersey and Man and BOTs.

[Svartalf]

All y'all are Limeys.

Be careful you, or I'm a callin' ye 'you yank'

[laklak]

You mean "oversexed, overpaid and over here" kind of Yank?

[Horwood Beer-Master]

When do they start building a wall between England and Wales?

That has already happened. Offa's Dyke.

It ought to be pointed out that the Kings of Mercia were as often in allience with various Welsh princes as they were at war with them. The Mercians would use the Welsh as back-up in their squabbles with the other English Kingdoms, and the Welsh princes would in turn use Mercia as back-up in their squabbles with other Welsh princes.

...That you are NOT a 'united kingdom', you are England. If Canada had its foreign policy made from Washington D.C., if Barack Obama was our head of state, if our Capitol was Washington D.C., I could not deny that we would be 'Americans'. My point? You're delusional.

Americans don't call themselves "Washingtonians"...

[Jason]

I attempted to get Red Celt to argue against Scottish independence by introducing arguments why Scotland has been subsumed by England rule and having him argue against me. I think I've done that. One more vote against Scottish independence.

Now off to do some work.

Translation: trying to justify being so wrong, by introducing a sub-plot.

Jesus fuck, man.

Nah. I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong. I wasn't. But I made you argue against the position you supposedly hold without you realizing it. Make of that what you will.

[Jason]

...That you are NOT a 'united kingdom', you are England. If Canada had its foreign policy made from Washington D.C., if Barack Obama was our head of state, if our Capitol was Washington D.C., I could not deny that we would be 'Americans'. My point? You're delusional.

Americans don't call themselves "Washingtonians"...

I'm sure some of them do. Regardless of that, the English don't call themselves 'Londoners' unless they live in London.

[Svartalf]

I'm a Quebecer, not an Ottawan.

[devogue]

I'm Brian, and so's my wife.

[Red Celt]

Nah. I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong. I wasn't. But I made you argue against the position you supposedly hold without you realizing it. Make of that what you will.

No you didn't. <deep sigh>

[Svartalf]

Maybe he didn't, but you sure came out like you think like a true englishman.

[laklak]

While there may be a True Englishman, we all know there is No True Scotsman.