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Lovecraft's brilliant idea

Post by orpheus » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:03 pm

Currently re-reading At the Mountains of Madness. I've always loved this novella. And I'd forgotten what a brilliant idea this was:
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He builds up much of the book to the discovery, description and exploration of the sinister higher-than-Himalayas mountains. And it's really effective. But then, toward the end, he springs on us the fact that off to the west, barely visible, is an even bigger mountain range - and these are the true mountains of madness. Something so chilling about that.
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:06 pm

I'll have to re-read - it's been decades since I read Lovecraft, and I can't remember if I read that one.
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Post by macdoc » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:17 pm

Me either and you just reminded me I'd like to revisit Storm Constantine as well.
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Post by Rum » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:55 pm

I love the image too, but I suspect opium is at least in part to be credited.

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Post by Audley Strange » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:02 pm

orpheus wrote:Currently re-reading At the Mountains of Madness. I've always loved this novella. And I'd forgotten what a brilliant idea this was:
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
He builds up much of the book to the discovery, description and exploration of the sinister higher-than-Himalayas mountains. And it's really effective. But then, toward the end, he springs on us the fact that off to the west, barely visible, is an even bigger mountain range - and these are the true mountains of madness. Something so chilling about that.
It's a good read, and the Plot of Prometheus essentially, only replace mountain with moon. Probably why Del Toro couldn't get the funding to make it.
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:45 am

Darn it, my ex kept all my Lovecraft. I shall have to go looking for this story.
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Post by laklak » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:57 am

Got a lovely edition of The Necronomicon for my birthday last year, I'm about half way through now. There's only so much abyssal, howling madness and thin wailing of accursed flutes you can stand in one go.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:11 am

laklak wrote:There's only so much abyssal, howling madness and thin wailing of accursed flutes you can stand in one go.
That's called "work" I come from...
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Post by orpheus » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:34 am

Bella Fortuna wrote:Darn it, my ex kept all my Lovecraft. I shall have to go looking for this story.
Seek and ye shall find.

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Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:35 am

Ah, brilliant! Thanks, orph!
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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:02 pm

laklak wrote:...There's only so much abyssal, howling madness and thin wailing of accursed flutes you can stand in one go.
I wouldn't know; I've never watched X-Factor.
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Post by Svartalf » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:10 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:Darn it, my ex kept all my Lovecraft. I shall have to go looking for this story.
If my ex had tried keeping that part of my library, she'd be my late.
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Post by Jason » Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:15 am

I have never read any Lovecraft, though I've oft heard him name-dropped. What's the big deal?

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Post by Audley Strange » Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:27 am

He made horror impersonal, made mankind a trivial actor in the face of eternal cosmic hostility and considered primate carnality which is the essence of most horror not lustful and animalistic, but infectious and viral.
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Post by orpheus » Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:24 am

Audley Strange wrote:He made horror impersonal, made mankind a trivial actor in the face of eternal cosmic hostility and considered primate carnality which is the essence of most horror not lustful and animalistic, but infectious and viral.
Well said, especially the part about mankind being "a trivial actor in the face of eternal cosmic hostility." I think that gets at the essence of Lovecraft.

Important to realize that his output is deeply uneven. His worst is quite bad, but his best is extremely good. At The Mountains of Madness is one of the best. It's also one of his few long-ish works; most are short stories. The Case of Charles Dexter Ward is his other novella. Also very good.

Of the short stories (and maybe they're the best places to start), some of the best are The Haunter of the Dark, The Dunwich Horror, and The Shadow Over Innsmouth. I also like The Shunned House and The Rats in the Walls.

Most of his stories are set in a somewhat fictionalized New England. At the Mountains of Madness is set in Antarctica. I mention this because atmosphere is quite important in his stories.
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