Duck and cover = Perfect Storm a comin'

[FBM]

Well, NYC and the Jersey Shore were sure handed a crap sandwich. Anyone care to bet on how much relief money or supplies we get from any other country on the planet? I say under 5 million dollars at best. As compared to the billions we hand out every time some shithole like Haiti gets all shook up.

Ingrates.

That would kinda be like me helping somebody like Romney pay for repairing his roof after a tree limb fell on it.

[amused]

If floodwaters spill into communities adjacent to the rivers, they will carry an estimated 240 million gallons of raw sewage discharged this week from the District’s system, which was designed to allow sewage to flow directly into the waterways when there is a heavy rainfall.

Already heavily polluted, the waterways can become unsafe to even touch for several days after a sewage overflow.

There were people fishing in the Potomac today.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc- ... ml?hpid=z3

[Bella Fortuna]

If floodwaters spill into communities adjacent to the rivers, they will carry an estimated 240 million gallons of raw sewage discharged this week from the District’s system, which was designed to allow sewage to flow directly into the waterways when there is a heavy rainfall.

Already heavily polluted, the waterways can become unsafe to even touch for several days after a sewage overflow.

There were people fishing in the Potomac today.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc- ... ml?hpid=z3

Bleeuuuurrrggh!

[amused]

No golfers were out today though, wankers.

I felt badass in my new northern kit - black Timberline waterproof boots with gnarly cleats, black jeans, and a heavy as shit black Wolverine coat with hood.

[macdoc]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/31/nyreg ... ml?hp&_r=0

[Coito ergo sum]

Didn't know you live in upper Manhattan. We used to live in Washington Heights, near Pinehurst & 187th st. (We've since moved up to Tarrytown.)

I buy my coffee there! (new place where the shoe repair used to be.)

Ah, yes! I haven't been back to the old neighborhood in quite a while. Does Ahn still have his grocery shop on the corner? Very good man, Mr. Ahn.

No! I miss Ahn's so much!

They got priced out of the place by their landlords, almost a year ago.
Now I have to trek down to Jin's if I want good produce.

And, you can't replace someone like Ahn, whose business was really part of the community. He had pics of neighborhood kids up, always a smile for my little one...

Everything changes. Nothing stays the same.

Before Ahn was there, someone else was there. Everything and everyone not only can, but will be replaced, and the people that live in the community of the future will hold an attachment to different stuff.

The water may rise, and the water may fall. But, one can never step in the same river twice.

EDIT - by way of example. We have some electric trolleys on train tracks that drive back and forth through part of our city here. They don't pay for themselves, and it's basically just for show. Some people ride on them, but not enough to make it worthwhile. People who like them, like them because they capture some essence of the traditional town. The town "should" have trolley cars. However, it occurred to me that when trolley cars were new technology, I bet there were people who longed for the good old days when the town wasn't cluttered with annoying trolley cars and they likely wanted to limit the essence of the town to the horses and carriages.

[Coito ergo sum]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/31/nyreg ... ml?hp&_r=0

Yep. Tragic. These storms are no joke.

[Wumbologist]

Far from sticking to his promise to cancel campaign rallies in the wake of Sandy, Romney is simply holding those rallies, thinly disguised as "charity relief" rallies... which of course he is holding in swing states that were unaffected by the storm: http://americablog.com/2012/10/romney-s ... event.html

[Coito ergo sum]

Far from sticking to his promise to cancel campaign rallies in the wake of Sandy, Romney is simply holding those rallies, thinly disguised as "charity relief" rallies... which of course he is holding in swing states that were unaffected by the storm: http://americablog.com/2012/10/romney-s ... event.html

Well, file this under the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" category.

He had campaign rallies scheduled, so instead of canceling it altogether, he did a fundraiser and supply raiser for the benefit of victims of the storm He held them in the swing states, because that is where he already had events scheduled, so there was a venue, security and attendees all set.

And, Ohio wasn't completely unaffected, as the storm bands knocked out power as far away as Cleveland. And, it makes sense to raise money in areas not effected too much, because if you went to New Jersey and New York City and asked the locals to chip in for disaster relief, you may well be met with a few "are you fucking kidding mes" because, news flash, they're the people who need the flippin' help.

Both Romney and Obama want to get elected, but I would at least give them both credit for caring about the people effected by the disaster and wanting to help. I notice you don't proclaim Obama's actions to be politically motivated to get himself elected. Why can't you at least give Romney similar credit -- that he might actually be a human being who gives a shit and sees an opportunity to do a little bit of good by raising some supplies and money to use for disaster relief.

I realize you'd probably prefer that he just cancel all of his scheduled dates and do nothing with them, and keep silent. That why you could post a link and gripe about how Romney didn't give a shit enough to even help.

[laklak]

This isn't, or shouldn't be, a partisan issue, Chris Christie (certainly no Obama supporter) has praised Obama's leadership and help in several tweets and will accompany Obama when he tours the area. When asked if Romney was going to visit he said

I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested, I have got a job to do here in New Jersey that is much bigger than presidential politics. And I could care less about any of that stuff. I have a job to do. I’ve got 2.4 million people out of power, I’ve got devastation on the shore, I’ve got floods in the northern part of my state. If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics, than you don't know me

I really like this guy.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... hpt=hp_bn3

[Coito ergo sum]

This isn't, or shouldn't be, a partisan issue, Chris Christie (certainly no Obama supporter) has praised Obama's leadership and help in several tweets and will accompany Obama when he tours the area. When asked if Romney was going to visit he said

I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested, I have got a job to do here in New Jersey that is much bigger than presidential politics. And I could care less about any of that stuff. I have a job to do. I’ve got 2.4 million people out of power, I’ve got devastation on the shore, I’ve got floods in the northern part of my state. If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics, than you don't know me

I really like this guy.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... hpt=hp_bn3

Chris Christie kicks ass.

[Wumbologist]

Well, file this under the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" category.

No... he could be holding genuine charity drives that aren't clearly political in nature. That's not what he's doing.

Both Romney and Obama want to get elected, but I would at least give them both credit for caring about the people effected by the disaster and wanting to help. I notice you don't proclaim Obama's actions to be politically motivated to get himself elected. Why can't you at least give Romney similar credit -- that he might actually be a human being who gives a shit and sees an opportunity to do a little bit of good by raising some supplies and money to use for disaster relief.

Obama is doing his job, a job which even Gov. Christie is praising him on. Romney is taking it as an opportunity to gain political opportunity, as the president is too busy doing his job to do any campaign stumping. Let's not forget that if Romney had been doing this job for the last four years he would have sought to eliminate FEMA.

[Coito ergo sum]

Well, file this under the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" category.

No... he could be holding genuine charity drives that aren't clearly political in nature. That's not what he's doing.

How would the charity events he is holding look different if he was doing them for other than politics?

Both Romney and Obama want to get elected, but I would at least give them both credit for caring about the people effected by the disaster and wanting to help. I notice you don't proclaim Obama's actions to be politically motivated to get himself elected. Why can't you at least give Romney similar credit -- that he might actually be a human being who gives a shit and sees an opportunity to do a little bit of good by raising some supplies and money to use for disaster relief.

Obama is doing his job, a job which even Gov. Christie is praising him on. Romney is taking it as an opportunity to gain political opportunity, as the president is too busy doing his job to do any campaign stumping. Let's not forget that if Romney had been doing this job for the last four years he would have sought to eliminate FEMA.

How is he doing that, exactly? By having the fund-raisers altogether? By having them at the same times/locations as previously scheduled campaign events? Is he saying something that causes you think it's all politics and he really doesn't care to raise money and supplies? If so, what?

[Wumbologist]

How would the charity events he is holding look different if he was doing them for other than politics?

The question here should read "how would the political events he is holding look different if he was doing them for charity?". It's a campaign rally in every way except that he's got an area roped off for donating canned goods, which by the way is actually the wrong way to help disaster relief efforts. The Red Cross specifically recommends against donating canned goods as it takes up more disaster relief resources than it contributes.

How is he doing that, exactly? By having the fund-raisers altogether? By having them at the same times/locations as previously scheduled campaign events? Is he saying something that causes you think it's all politics and he really doesn't care to raise money and supplies? If so, what?

It seems to me like if it was about helping disaster relief efforts, there are better ways to do that than selling anti-Obama t-shirts.

[Coito ergo sum]

How would the charity events he is holding look different if he was doing them for other than politics?

The question here should read "how would the political events he is holding look different if he was doing them for charity?". It's a campaign rally in every way except that he's got an area roped off for donating canned goods, which by the way is actually the wrong way to help disaster relief efforts. The Red Cross specifically recommends against donating canned goods as it takes up more disaster relief resources than it contributes.

How is he doing that, exactly? By having the fund-raisers altogether? By having them at the same times/locations as previously scheduled campaign events? Is he saying something that causes you think it's all politics and he really doesn't care to raise money and supplies? If so, what?

It seems to me like if it was about helping disaster relief efforts, there are better ways to do that than selling anti-Obama t-shirts.

"Thank you for your help and your generosity," Romney told supporters, as he stood on a table surrounded by donated goods, at the location of a planned campaign rally this morning. "If you have a little extra, if you have more canned goods, bring them along to our victory centers that are open. But also if you can write a check to American Red Cross that's welcome as well. We're looking for all the help we can get for all the families in need."
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Romney had been scheduled to hold a full-fledged campaign rally in this same building until late yesterday, when the campaign said it was scrapping Romney's political calendar as Hurricane Sandy approached the East Coast. Monday night, the campaign announced this morning's event was back on, but the focus would be storm relief — with Romney making no formal remarks, and no political agenda attached.
Attendees were asked by the campaign to bring donations of non-perishable goods, which are to be trucked to a Red Cross office in Sewell, NJ — or to give to the red cross directly.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012 ... ctims?lite

Not bad for converting an already scheduled political stop to a fund and supply raiser in under 48 hours. But, of course, you know for sure he doesn't care about the people who were hurt by the hurricane.

Romney made a personal donation to the Red Cross: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ele ... red-cross/

Remember Hurricane Katrina? Lot's of people donated lots of supplies and canned goods to help down there. Nobody bitched about it then.