Most pointless referendum ever?

[Animavore]

I've been seeing a lot of posters of late around Dublin about children's rights and it seems there is a referendum coming up to strengthen child protection laws.
I haven't seen one poster against it, even The Church, overtly at least, are in full support. I would imagine only a monster would be against it. Is this going to be the most landslide referendum in Irish history? It seems they should just push it through and not waste money on a referendum at all.

[Cormac]

I've been seeing a lot of posters of late around Dublin about children's rights and it seems there is a referendum coming up to strengthen child protection laws.
I haven't seen one poster against it, even The Church, overtly at least, are in full support. I would imagine only a monster would be against it. Is this going to be the most landslide referendum in Irish history? It seems they should just push it through and not waste money on a referendum at all.

No can do.

The only way to adjust those parts of our constitution not already usurped by the EU is by referendum.

[Animavore]

I've noticed a small number of religious types against it because there's nothing in there to protect the unborn. Including those wankers at Alive magazine. What's crawled up their ass? They're going against the official Church line.

[Cormac]

I've noticed a small number of religious types against it because there's nothing in there to protect the unborn. Including those wankers at Alive magazine. What's crawled up their ass? They're going against the official Church line.

Arguably, the referendum isn't needed, on the basis that all the necessary powers already exist, but the courts and other state agents have balked at the key moments. If they balk now, what is to keep them from balking in the future.

[Animavore]

I've noticed a small number of religious types against it because there's nothing in there to protect the unborn. Including those wankers at Alive magazine. What's crawled up their ass? They're going against the official Church line.

Arguably, the referendum isn't needed, on the basis that all the necessary powers already exist, but the courts and other state agents have balked at the key moments. If they balk now, what is to keep them from balking in the future.

I dunno. Why are they balking now? Isn't that what the referendum aims to change?

[Audley Strange]

I've noticed a small number of religious types against it because there's nothing in there to protect the unborn. Including those wankers at Alive magazine. What's crawled up their ass? They're going against the official Church line.

What? The unborn are pretty fucking protected, unless someone gets the Dyson out. Funny how you never see stuff on in-utero child abuse or neglect, womb-child poverty (though I could see some doof liberal whining about that) foetal labour laws, pre-born schooling.

Seriously right to life and all that shit aside, that's fucking mental.

[Animavore]

I've noticed a small number of religious types against it because there's nothing in there to protect the unborn. Including those wankers at Alive magazine. What's crawled up their ass? They're going against the official Church line.

What? The unborn are pretty fucking protected, unless someone gets the Dyson out. Funny how you never see stuff on in-utero child abuse or neglect, womb-child poverty (though I could see some doof liberal whining about that) foetal labour laws, pre-born schooling.

Seriously right to life and all that shit aside, that's fucking mental.

What they are actually doing is trying to usurp any future abortion referendum. And given the current political climate that looks likely in the next year or so. Remember abortion is illegal here.

[Rum]

But not here, which explains quite a lot of the profits of the ferry companies back and forth..

[Animavore]

But not here, which explains quite a lot of the profits of the ferry companies back and forth..

No more. Northern Ireland just got their first clinic a couple of weeks ago. You can be there and back within the day by car.

[Rum]

Well I didn't know that. But one clinic isn't going to do the job I wouldn't have thought.

[Animavore]

Well I didn't know that. But one clinic isn't going to do the job I wouldn't have thought.

Nah. Prolly not. Also Northie Catholics who are quite staunch, unlike us wet day worshippers doen South may not take kindly to it. Could consider us traitors.
We could end up with something like this either.

http://www.independent.ie/unsorted/feat ... 08291.html

[Rum]

Well I didn't know that. But one clinic isn't going to do the job I wouldn't have thought.

Nah. Prolly not. Also Northie Catholics who are quite staunch, unlike us wet day worshippers doen South may not take kindly to it. Could consider us traitors.
We could end up with something like this either.

http://www.independent.ie/unsorted/feat ... 08291.html

I love the headline!

[klr]

I've been seeing a lot of posters of late around Dublin about children's rights and it seems there is a referendum coming up to strengthen child protection laws.
I haven't seen one poster against it, even The Church, overtly at least, are in full support. I would imagine only a monster would be against it. Is this going to be the most landslide referendum in Irish history? It seems they should just push it through and not waste money on a referendum at all.

No can do.

The only way to adjust those parts of our constitution not already usurped by the EU is by referendum.

Which means we get to have a helluva lot of referendums:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amendments ... eferendums

It doesn't matter how inconsequential it is, or how much of a foregone conclusion it might be. The 6th referendum had under 29% turnout, but 99% support:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_Amen ... of_Ireland

[Cormac]

I've noticed a small number of religious types against it because there's nothing in there to protect the unborn. Including those wankers at Alive magazine. What's crawled up their ass? They're going against the official Church line.

What? The unborn are pretty fucking protected, unless someone gets the Dyson out. Funny how you never see stuff on in-utero child abuse or neglect, womb-child poverty (though I could see some doof liberal whining about that) foetal labour laws, pre-born schooling.

Seriously right to life and all that shit aside, that's fucking mental.

What they are actually doing is trying to usurp any future abortion referendum. And given the current political climate that looks likely in the next year or so. Remember abortion is illegal here.

This is not strictly true Animavore.

Abortion is permitted in Ireland where the life of the mother is threatened, as far as I am aware.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Shouldn't there have been a referendum on whether this referendum was needed?