Political posterizing redux.

[Coito ergo sum]

Not a perfect analogy, but it works just fine Coito. The US had been at war for 2.5 years by the time D-Day happened, and only 11 months afterwords. The difference here is that the allies would have invaded sooner if it were militarily possible.

In Afghanistan, an invasion happened very soon after 9/11... and then the war was shunted to a lower priority for the next seven to eight years... during which time the Taliban had ample time to regain some footing.

If by "not perfect" you mean "not analogous at all," then i agree with you.

The US had been at war for 2.5 years, but we weren't fighting in Europe because we hadn't yet invaded the Continent.

The point in Afghanistan is that Obama ordered a surge, and dramatically increased our body count, but achieved very little in exchange for those lives. That's the context.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Pity Dudya started the whole war thing over there.

[Ian]

Coito - You're missing the point of the analogy. The point is that both wars had been going on for some time before the REAL fighting started - at least as far as the US is concerned. The difference between them lies in the military judgement of the Presidents at the time. Roosevelt knew a western front against Germany was impossible in 1942 and 1943. Bush, however, knew that more decisive action in Afghanistan was possible in the early years, could've sent in more troops, but chose to put his available forces somewhere else and let Afghanistan simmer for a while instead.

It's your opinion that very little has been achieved in the last couple years. I consider that debateable.

It's my opinion that the surge should have happened back in 2002, which should have prohibited the Iraq War from happening at all. Had that been the case, we might not be talking about Afghanistan at all today, let alone Iraq.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/ref ... ies-1.html

[Coito ergo sum]

Pity Dudya started the whole war thing over there.

"The whole war thing?" You mean, Bush was behind 9/11, and the Khobar Towers, and the USS Cole, and the 1993 World Trade Center Bombings, and the Kenya and Tanzania Embassy Bombings....and....and.... and.... yeah -- W "started the whole war thing..." LOL --

...there is a cure for myopia these days....

[Gawdzilla Sama]

...there is a cure for myopia these days....

Funny you seem to be allergic to it.

[Coito ergo sum]

Coito - You're missing the point of the analogy. The point is that both wars had been going on for some time before the REAL fighting started - at least as far as the US is concerned. The difference between them lies in the military judgement of the Presidents at the time. Roosevelt knew a western front against Germany was impossible in 1942 and 1943. Bush, however, knew that more decisive action in Afghanistan was possible in the early years, could've sent in more troops, but chose to put his available forces somewhere else and let Afghanistan simmer for a while instead.

It's your opinion that very little has been achieved in the last couple years. I consider that debateable.

It's my opinion that the surge should have happened back in 2002, which should have prohibited the Iraq War from happening at all. Had that been the case, we might not be talking about Afghanistan at all today, let alone Iraq.

No, your point is incorrect, as there was real fighting by American forces in Afghanistan beginning in October, 2011. The real fighting didn't just begin in 2009. What a ridiculous thing for you to say...

The reason why additional troops in Afghanistan were not put in originally is the same reason they didn't work this time. More American troops didn't accomplish anything in the past 3 years, Ian, except more American dead.

[Coito ergo sum]

...there is a cure for myopia these days....

Funny you seem to be allergic to it.

Sorry, I can't stop laughing at the "W started the whole war thing" comment.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

...there is a cure for myopia these days....

Funny you seem to be allergic to it.

Sorry, I can't stop laughing at the "W started the whole war thing" comment.

Hysteria, I expected nothing less. Or more.

[Coito ergo sum]

...there is a cure for myopia these days....

Funny you seem to be allergic to it.

Sorry, I can't stop laughing at the "W started the whole war thing" comment.

Hysteria, I expected nothing less. Or more.

What was that? I already spit out my coffee laughing so much...do you have something else to say?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Nothing you'd understand, coitus.

[Coito ergo sum]

Nothing you'd understand, coitus.

That's because W started the whole war thingy. I know.

[Svartalf]

If he didn't who did?

[Coito ergo sum]

If he didn't who did?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Al Qeada flew into three buildings. Dubya flew into a fantasy land.