DNC tribute to veterans - Russian veterans

[Coito ergo sum]

I know. Damned that liberal conspiracy to censor any Democrat gaffes.

They're not censored. They're just more-or-less ignored.

I mean, take Biden's racist gaffes about Obama being "the first clean, articulate" black candidate. Put those words in the mouth of a Republican and tell me that they wouldn't have been splattered across the front pages of every newspaper and discussed ad nauseum on every news channel. Guaranteed. We can see the difference by comparing it to George Allen's "Macaca" comment where he called a heckler a "macaca", which was blown up by the media into a major scandal, with calls for his dropping out of a Senate race and/or resignation.

Every word and stumble of Republicans is taken seriously and agonized over. McCain doesn't use email, and he's a Luddite idiot, but Obama can't use an iPhone and it's no big deal.

Obama said Egypt was not an ally; contradicted by our own state department. Mainstream media yawns. Imagine if Romney or GWBush said that?

Obama said his biggest lesson as President has been "you can't change Washington from the inside." Put those words in Romney or Bush's mouth?

Obama likened his bowling performance to "competing in the Special Olympics." Again, put that in the mouth of a Republican.

Have Romney say the US had 57 states or refer to a "corpse" man in the armed forces....

Put Obama's words in Palin's mouth, that "The Bomb" had been dropped on Pearl Harbor, or if she expressed the notion that American troops had liberated Auschwitz.....

It really seems inarguable that the media just doesn't care much about Democrat gaffes, and pounces on Republican gaffes.

[Clinton Huxley]

Surely Fox News was all over those. Or is that not mainstream? You still seem to have heard all about these nano-gaffes, anyway.

[Kristie]

Ths article is interesting. Guess people don't make such a big deal about the stupid crap Obama slips and says because they actually like him.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/ ... fpnewsfeed

[Coito ergo sum]

Surely Fox News was all over those. Or is that not mainstream? You still seem to have heard all about these nano-gaffes, anyway.

Well, they are nano-gaffes, I agree, but so are the ones that become monumental news stories on the part of Republicans. That is the problem I'm talking about.

And, yes, they are not completely unreported because obviously, I do not have any secret news sources that others don't also have. But, surely you understand there is a difference in degree, repetition, longevity, and expansiveness of the stories on these nano-gaffes. A story about a nano-gaffe by a Republican gets broad-based news coverage for extensive periods of time, and a Democrat nano-gaffe will receive a blip on the radar screen and then be dust in the wind. The way they are reported is dramatically disparate -- George Allen's gaffe shows he's a racist -- Biden's gaffe is just "funny old Biden, at it again."

[Ian]

It was noticed shortly after the video was played, but it it took off a few days later in the press. The Mainstream Media didn't bother with it, because it wasn't a Republican gaffe.

Gimme a break. Maybe the media didn't pick up on it much was because it hardly even counts as a gaffe. It was certainly nothing any of the speakers at the convention were responsible for. Compare this to, say, the lie-a-palooza that came out of Paul Ryan's mouth during the GOP convention.
I think you're just hyper-sensitive to how the media reacts to one party's gaffe vice another.

[laklak]

They're all a bunch of lying toe-rags, the whole job lot.

[Coito ergo sum]

Ths article is interesting. Guess people don't make such a big deal about the stupid crap Obama slips and says because they actually like him.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/ ... fpnewsfeed

Well, the point is that objectivity in news reporting was once considered something to strive for, and just because straight news reporters (as distinct from pundits) and there should be some attempt or good faith effort at a fair reporting of similar events. A gaffe ought not become worse than a similar gaffe, just because you don't like the gaffer.

[Coito ergo sum]

It was noticed shortly after the video was played, but it it took off a few days later in the press. The Mainstream Media didn't bother with it, because it wasn't a Republican gaffe.

Gimme a break. Maybe the media didn't pick up on it much was because it hardly even counts as a gaffe.

Have the same thing done by Republicans. Imagine Romney used Russian warships in a celebratory video about the US military. You think it would "hardly count as a gaffe" then?

It was certainly nothing any of the speakers at the convention were responsible for. Compare this to, say, the lie-a-palooza that came out of Paul Ryan's mouth during the GOP convention.

LOL -- number one, none that is gaffes, that's just serious political statements being fact checks. And, it turned out that the fact checkers needed fact checking themselves.

I think you're just hyper-sensitive to how the media reacts to one party's gaffe vice another.

Not really, actually. I have tried to be mindful of that. I really, seriously, calmly, think that there is a huge double standard on this point. I am fairly confident that if a Republican said you couldn't walk into a 7-Eleven without having a slight Indian accent, there would be a lot more "outrage" than Biden faced. Same with his "first clean, articulate" black politician quote. Tell me you can put those words in the mouth of a Republican and have him be the Republican Vice Presidential nominee. I don't see how you can't see that.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

That is doubtful. Everything that is going to be shown to the entire audience of delegates, and the millions of television viewers, would be carefully scrutinized and reviewed by the organizers. They dropped the ball, because to them big battleships look like big battleships, and it likely just didn't occur to anyone to double check that the battleships were American. It was probably just assumed that they were American.

Proof?

[Ian]

It was noticed shortly after the video was played, but it it took off a few days later in the press. The Mainstream Media didn't bother with it, because it wasn't a Republican gaffe.

Gimme a break. Maybe the media didn't pick up on it much was because it hardly even counts as a gaffe.

Have the same thing done by Republicans. Imagine Romney used Russian warships in a celebratory video about the US military. You think it would "hardly count as a gaffe" then?

Yes. At the GOP convention the Romney/Ryan campaign buttons being distributed for people to wear had "Made in China" stamped on the back. Remember how the media (not to mention all the liberals here) went crazy over that? Neither do I, because it hardly counted as a gaffe, either.

[Coito ergo sum]

That is doubtful. Everything that is going to be shown to the entire audience of delegates, and the millions of television viewers, would be carefully scrutinized and reviewed by the organizers. They dropped the ball, because to them big battleships look like big battleships, and it likely just didn't occur to anyone to double check that the battleships were American. It was probably just assumed that they were American.

Proof?

None. It just stands to reason. Such a detail, like the backdrop to a theater production, would not be left up to chance. It would be like letting a minimum wage employee do set design for a major Broadway production, or a major advertising campaign leave the background photography and videography up to a college intern who's good at the googles. I don't think the DNC are such idiots that major portions of their national convention would be left up to a minimum wage employee to google.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Crap.

[Coito ergo sum]

It was noticed shortly after the video was played, but it it took off a few days later in the press. The Mainstream Media didn't bother with it, because it wasn't a Republican gaffe.

Gimme a break. Maybe the media didn't pick up on it much was because it hardly even counts as a gaffe.

Have the same thing done by Republicans. Imagine Romney used Russian warships in a celebratory video about the US military. You think it would "hardly count as a gaffe" then?

Yes. At the GOP convention the Romney/Ryan campaign buttons being distributed for people to wear had "Made in China" stamped on the back. Remember how the media (not to mention all the liberals here) went crazy over that? Neither do I, because it hardly counted as a gaffe, either.

There is a major difference to point out regarding that gaffe.

It wasn't true. The Romney campaign button made in China thing was shopped and it was a false allegation spread around.

By way of example only:

No, Romney Campaign Buttons Were Not Made In China
It's a meme that has been making the rounds on Twitter, Facebook, and liberal blogs with one problem: It's not true. A Romney campaign aide confirms the buttons are made in America. The fake appears to be the back of a button photoshopped from Zazzle.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski ... e-in-china

[Coito ergo sum]

Crap.

Do you have proof the decision as to what video and imagery was to be displayed to 10s of thousands of Republican delegates, and millions of television viewers, was delegated to a minimum wage person and not checked by anyone responsible for organizing and orchestrating the national convention?

Assuming it was delegated to such a minimum wage person, that really sounds reasonable to you? That would be the way national conventions of major political campaigns, in this case the President of the US, are put together? Was "Greek column" backdrop to Obama's famous 2008 speech also picked out by a minimum wage person?

I certainly leave open the possibility that you are right, but do you really believe that major portions of the Democratic Party's national convention are left up to the vicissitudes of a minimum wage lackey trolling the googles?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You prove your idea, I'll prove mine.