Will mankind destroy itself?

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Will mankind destroy itself?

Post by Ace » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:57 am

Came across this a while ago.
Two vids, one with Michio Kaku, and another which talks about global dimming and global warming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NPC47qM ... H8ufOavkVg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8RyNSzQ ... H8ufOavkVg
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Re: Will mankind destroy itself?

Post by Atheist-Lite » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:06 am

Ace wrote:Came across this a while ago.
Two vids, one with Michio Kaku, and another which talks about global dimming and global warming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NPC47qM ... H8ufOavkVg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8RyNSzQ ... H8ufOavkVg
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Post by That Alien Guy. » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:10 am

I hope not, well not until "Chimp Wars" jumps the shark and gets cancelled, but we've got a good few seasons before that happens. Besides our next project is to have a death cult take charge of one of your "western democracy" packs. So I wouldn't worry to much about the long range weather forecast.

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Re: Will mankind destroy itself?

Post by FBM » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:13 am

I just watched the first vid and would respond to it by comparing the planet to a collection of microbes in an uncovered petri dish. One set of populations dominates until the nutrients that support it are exhausted. But the dish doesn't go sterile. A second set of populations that can make use of the waste products of the first set becomes dominant. Like the uncovered petri dish, the ecosystem is now changing faster than our DNA can adapt to it. However, we have pretty advanced technologies that can mimic adaptation. That sword cuts both ways, though. As long as we have technologies that can compensate for the damage to the environment that we're doing, we may have insufficient motivation to change the things that we do that damage that environment. I sure as hell don't know how that's going to turn out.

As far as the terrorists go, I seriously doubt they will ever take over the majority of the planet or muster enough firepower to get us to a MAD situation. The trend seems to be going in the other direction, I think. That is, they're losing globally, although they have some local 'wins'.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:07 am

Ladies and Germs, I give you Chernobyl. The area is a heaven for wildlife now that the humans have life. So if we do destroy ourselves I'm confident the planet will recover and carry on. As for humans, we giant mutant reptiles will miss some of you.
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Post by Rum » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:11 am

I agree with your analysis FBM. We need to take a longer view. What's happening now is like a string of firecrackers going off (the incredibly fast developments that human beings have introduced). I suspect we will eventually fade away either with a few dramatic events kicking things off or simply into the background and return to a slightly more staid phase of petri dish propagation.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:14 am

Humans have bottlenecked before with less resources than we have now. If we can keep a core going we'll get through just about any disaster.
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:54 am

Climate change, meaning primarily changing weather and rain patterns is probably the leading cause for civilizations to "mysteriously" fall into decline and vanish. But that is easily survivable by humans as a species.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:57 am

Humans are like rats, very hard to dislodge once they have a toe-hold. But there will be a long period of grunting savages surrounding small pockets of "civilization" I think. Thousands of years, perhaps.
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Post by FBM » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:05 pm

Rum wrote:I agree with your analysis FBM. We need to take a longer view. What's happening now is like a string of firecrackers going off (the incredibly fast developments that human beings have introduced). I suspect we will eventually fade away either with a few dramatic events kicking things off or simply into the background and return to a slightly more staid phase of petri dish propagation.

Yup. However it pans out, it'll be within a blink of the cosmic eye, won't it?
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Post by Red Celt » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:46 pm

This sums up my views. :)

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Post by laklak » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:54 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:But there will be a long period of grunting savages surrounding small pockets of "civilization" I think. Thousands of years, perhaps.
We're in that bit now.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:05 pm

I have a cellar full of champagne and larks tongues in aspic. I will be fine.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:34 pm

Without a manned space program, certainly our civilization and way of life has a good chance of being gone in short order. And, in the long term, the odds go to 100%, because our planet is temporary by nature.

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Re: Will mankind destroy itself?

Post by Tero » Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:58 pm

All mass entictions are caused by external events. We will go only when all the mammals go.

Rabbits did not disappear from Australia even when a virus was introduced.

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