Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post Reply
User avatar
Clinton Huxley
19th century monkeybitch.
Posts: 23739
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:34 pm
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Clinton Huxley » Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:20 pm

Quoting Infowars is one step removed from quoting David Icke.
"I grow old … I grow old …
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled"

AND MERRY XMAS TO ONE AND All!

Imagehttp://25kv.co.uk/date_counter.php?date ... 20counting!!![/img-sig]

User avatar
Cormac
Posts: 6415
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:47 pm
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Cormac » Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:58 pm

In my view we are in the midst of two major conflicts, one about resources, and one about culture. The second is one that politicians will not acknowledge because it could inflame matters into a world war type escalation. This is the aim of Al Qaeda and their fellow travellers.

We cannot allow democratic and enlightenment advances to fall to theocratic benightedness.
FUCKERPUNKERSHIT!


Wanna buy some pegs Dave, I've got some pegs here...
You're my wife now!

User avatar
Tyrannical
Posts: 6468
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:59 am
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Tyrannical » Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:44 pm

Peace with the Arab / Muslim world is easy. Just limit your dealings with them to trade; no immigration and no complaining about how "barbaric" they are.
But first we must purge our countries of all Muslims, and the easiest way to do that is to pay Muslim countries to take them back.
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.

User avatar
Ian
Mr Incredible
Posts: 16975
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:42 pm
Location: Washington DC

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Ian » Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:48 pm

Tyrannical wrote:Peace with the Arab / Muslim world is easy. Just limit your dealings with them to trade; no immigration and no complaining about how "barbaric" they are.
But first we must purge our countries of all Muslims, and the easiest way to do that is to pay Muslim countries to take them back.
I honestly can't tell if you're trying to Poe us with opinions like that.

Why aren't those countries "taking them back" right now? Because they're not being paid? Or because immigrants require incentives?

User avatar
Tyrannical
Posts: 6468
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:59 am
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Tyrannical » Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:01 pm

Ian wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Peace with the Arab / Muslim world is easy. Just limit your dealings with them to trade; no immigration and no complaining about how "barbaric" they are.
But first we must purge our countries of all Muslims, and the easiest way to do that is to pay Muslim countries to take them back.
I honestly can't tell if you're trying to Poe us with opinions like that.

Why aren't those countries "taking them back" right now? Because they're not being paid? Or because immigrants require incentives?
Why would I Poe when that is a serious and workable solution?

Both sides require incentives, simply gassing them would cause an "uproar". They won't leave voluntarily because of the differences in welfare and standard of living as well as personal freedom or for nefarious take over purposes. Paying the host country money gives them an incentive to encourage the idea and stifle local opposition to it.

Afterwards, we can just buy their oil and limit our involvement to that.
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.

User avatar
Warren Dew
Posts: 3781
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:41 pm
Location: Somerville, MA, USA
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Warren Dew » Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:49 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:One from foxnews and and one from the weekly standard. The foxnews link I used because all it was doing was quoting Jimmy Carter. And, the Weekly Standard was a short bland report of a mob outside the London consulate.

What is wrong with that?
Any source that doesn't drink the kool aid can't be trusted, you know. Have to have those facts filtered through the Obama filter before they're safe to read.

Coito ergo sum
Posts: 32040
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:03 pm
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:22 pm

The day I’m inaugurated, not only the country looks at itself differently, but the world looks at America differently … If I’m reaching out to the Muslim world they understand that I’ve lived in a Muslim country and I may be a Christian, but I also understand their point of view … My sister is half-Indonesian. I traveled there all the way through my college years. And so I’m intimately concerned with what happens in these countries and the cultures and perspective these folks have. And those are powerful tools for us to be able to reach out to the world … then I think the world will have confidence that I am listening to them and that our future and our security is tied up with our ability to work with other countries in the world that will ultimately makes us safer.
- B. Obama, November 21, 2007.

Clearly, another success predicted, and achieved. Glorious!

Coito ergo sum
Posts: 32040
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:03 pm
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:08 pm

The government defended the right of magazine Charlie Hebdo to publish the cartoons, which played off of the U.S.-produced film "The Innocence of Muslims," and riot police took up positions outside the offices of the magazine, which was firebombed last year after it released an edition that mocked radical Islam. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/ ... 9-06-43-47

Never thought I'd be saying "hooray, French! Hip hip hooray! Huzzah and all that!"

Way to go!

Publish those cartoons, and do not apologize!

User avatar
laklak
Posts: 21022
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:07 pm
About me: My preferred pronoun is "Massah"
Location: Tannhauser Gate
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by laklak » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:45 pm

Yeah, it's getting real interesting out there. I say we keep whipping them up until they all die of apoplexy. Or a few nukes, depending on how they respond.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Coito ergo sum
Posts: 32040
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:03 pm
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:53 pm

I really think the only way to get them to stop is to STOP apologizing.

There has to be some unity against this crap. Like clear statements from political leaders, like, "Look - we live in free countries which means that where we live, people can publish stuff that they want to publish. We do not allow violence as a response to peaceful publication. We aren't going to use state power to stop peaceful expression, and that means by Muslims, whether Sunni, Shia or any other faction, as well as any other group or religion or individual. It's fair and it's equal. Try it sometime."

User avatar
laklak
Posts: 21022
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:07 pm
About me: My preferred pronoun is "Massah"
Location: Tannhauser Gate
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by laklak » Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:03 pm

I want to publish a drawing of Mo fist-fucking Ganesh. Get both the Muzzies and Hindus all whipped up, then put 'em in a pit and bet on the outcome. Fundy Baiting, it's the new Dog Fighting.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Coito ergo sum
Posts: 32040
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:03 pm
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:17 pm

laklak wrote:I want to publish a drawing of Mo fist-fucking Ganesh. Get both the Muzzies and Hindus all whipped up, then put 'em in a pit and bet on the outcome. Fundy Baiting, it's the new Dog Fighting.
Ganesh D'Souza? :smoke:

User avatar
Robert_S
Cookie Monster
Posts: 13416
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:47 am
About me: Too young to die of boredom, too old to grow up.
Location: Illinois
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Robert_S » Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:18 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:I really think the only way to get them to stop is to STOP apologizing.

There has to be some unity against this crap. Like clear statements from political leaders, like, "Look - we live in free countries which means that where we live, people can publish stuff that they want to publish. We do not allow violence as a response to peaceful publication. We aren't going to use state power to stop peaceful expression, and that means by Muslims, whether Sunni, Shia or any other faction, as well as any other group or religion or individual. It's fair and it's equal. Try it sometime."
Where was an actual Obama apology?

Quite correctly he pointed out that Merkins generally aren't anti-Muslim and generally we don't like that kind of religion baiting. This is true and worth pointing out while we have troops in Afghanistan relying on Muslim cooperation.

I never saw an example of him apologise for our freedom of speech. If you have, then I'd be interested in a link.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
-Mr P

The Net is best considered analogous to communication with disincarnate intelligences. As any neophyte would tell you. Do not invoke that which you have no facility to banish.
Audley Strange

Coito ergo sum
Posts: 32040
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:03 pm
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:36 pm

When the support for free speech is coupled with qualifications that we "deplore it when people denigrate other people's religions" and such, then I consider that to be apologetic, regardless of who says it. Both Democrats and Republicans are guilty of this. Nobody has outright, literally apologized, but any expressions of "understanding" relative to murder, mayhem and wanton destruction of property in response to a video or a cartoon is in my view apologetic.

Many of us DO like that kind of religion bating. Take the popularity of "everybody draw Mohammed Day" and plays like "the book of Mormon" and various religious humor such as on the show Family Guy, South Park and other humor that pushes the envelope.

He has apologized expressly for incidents that did not deserve apologies, though, like the Qu'ran Burning incident -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Afgha ... g_protests

His essential apologies for the "arrogance" of America and kowtowing to foreign leaders, etc. -- over the last three years have added up to a rather apologetic and supine posture.

Did he ever say "I'm sorry or I apologize" -- not that I can find, except in relation to the accidental burning incident. But, it's the overall gist or message -- one doesn't have to use the exact words to get a particular message across. It's like the constitution not expressly or literally saying "separation of church and state" but any reasoned application of the First Amendment's language is that it erects such a wall of separation.

User avatar
Sean Hayden
Microagressor
Posts: 18933
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:55 pm
About me: recovering humanist
Contact:

Re: Arab Winter Setting In -- Gonna Be a Doozy...

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:48 pm

I thought the comment about deploring insulting religions was said to reinforce what is supposed to be our government's disinterest in religion. The US is not a respecter of religion, the US does not insult or encourage religion -supposedly. Unfortunately that's a fucking lie, we are Christian, and we support Christianity everywhere in the world.
I was given a year of free milkshakes once. The year passed and I hadn’t bothered to get even one.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 27 guests