US ambassador 'killed in Libya'

[JimC]

It would be good if people didn't derail this thread with tiresome US domestic political squabbles...

[Ian]

I think Zilla just posted that in the wrong thread. It had nothing to do with Libya.

Maybe one of us Mods should use our awesome Mod Powers and move those posts somewhere else? I'd do it but I'm in the middle of having a beer and I feel lazy at the moment...

[Tero]

Onion spoofs religin
http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one ... age,29553/

[HomerJay]

A much stronger response is needed from the US. Suspending aid and diplomatic relations would be a start...

Response to who? The mobs weren't acting on behalf of some government policy in Egypt or Libya or Yemen. Moreover, local security has been helping (in vain, esp. in Libya) to fight off the disturbances.

How long did the mob have control of the Benghazi compound for?

I read it was something like three hours, doesn't sound like the local security were doing a great deal to help.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I think Zilla just posted that in the wrong thread. It had nothing to do with Libya.

Maybe one of us Mods should use our awesome Mod Powers and move those posts somewhere else? I'd do it but I'm in the middle of having a beer and I feel lazy at the moment...

[Coito ergo sum]

So how about it, Mr. President — who called off a rescue and why? President Obama, a little more than a week before the election, won’t tell Americans what happened. Well, why should he — the press doesn’t hound him, the liberal elite still rushes to his defense, and his White House attack dogs bark “Politics!” whenever legitimate questions are asked.

Meanwhile, the father of slain SEAL Tyrone Woods is furious with the administration, demanding to know why his son wasn’t saved when “apparently even the State Department had a live stream and was aware of their calls for help. My son wasn’t even there. He was at a safe house about a mile away. He got the distress call; he heard them crying for help; that’s why he and Glen risked their lives to go that extra mile just to take care of the situation. And I’m sure that wasn’t the only one received that distress call — you know, ‘Come save our lives.’”

Did Defense Secretary Leon Panetta take it upon himself to call off any rescue effort? (He told the press on Thursday that the Pentagon lacked clear information as to what was going on.) Where was the president and did he or some other official take it upon himself to deny help to the trapped Americans?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/rig ... _blog.html

[Seth]

A much stronger response is needed from the US. Suspending aid and diplomatic relations would be a start...

Response to who? The mobs weren't acting on behalf of some government policy in Egypt or Libya or Yemen. Moreover, local security has been helping (in vain, esp. in Libya) to fight off the disturbances.

How long did the mob have control of the Benghazi compound for?

I read it was something like three hours, doesn't sound like the local security were doing a great deal to help.

The "local security" abandoned their posts in the first few minutes (if they didn't in fact join the attack) and I've seen no reports that any of them were killed.

The attack on the CIA safe-house, which is where everyone but the ambassador retreated to (his security detail couldn't find him in the chaos at the consulate) lasted more than 7 hours. The two former SEALs were killed by mortar fire. Three rounds hit the safe house.

There is credible information from retired military officers who previously handled such things that the "in extremis" special forces rescue teams based in Italy were ready to jump from a C-130 five minutes after they were notified to deploy, and it would have taken about 2 hours from engine start to deployment for a force of up to 50 special operators, and about 5 hours for a larger force.

There is credible information that there was an unarmed Predator drone over Bengazhi and that there was a live feed to the White House Situation Room.

The White House Situation Room was notified that the Ambassador was "in peril" less than 5 minutes after the attack started, and the standard protocols in place authorize the automatic deployment of the "in extremis" rescue forces available in theater without the President's personal authorization if he cannot be immediately contacted. The deployment decision would have been reviewed and made by the 4-star General in command of AfriCom in Southern Italy had he, and everyone else, not been told to STAND DOWN on THREE different occasions by the White House Situation Room. The ONLY person who can issue that stand down order is the POTUS, who would have been notified by hand-carried FLASH message directly from the secure communications network between the Embassy in Tripoli and the Situation Room.

Contrary to the specious claims of the SecDef and others, that message would NOT have come in on unencrypted, unsecure "email" and could not possibly have been "lost" among the deluge of emails coming in. FLASH traffic does not travel by Internet, it travels by a completely separate, dedicated military communications network that is deeply encrypted and pretty much unjammable.

Obama is lying through his teeth, and he's hoping nobody will call him on it and that the mainstream press, which is in the bag for him anyway, will ignore the impeachable scandal until after the election. That's why he's stonewalling answering the questions about whether our forces were ordered to stand down rather than going in to rescue our personnel.

Fucking cowardly scumbag. Doesn't deserve to be dog catcher. This will be his legacy, and I hope if he is reelected, he's immediately impeached and removed from office because he should be.

[Coito ergo sum]

So, Hillary won't testify due to her schedule and Petraeus resigns because he was found boinking his biographer...

Need I say it? That's what she said...

[Tero]

Onvious conspiracy. The woman is really Hillary's girl friend. Bill gets to watch.

[Coito ergo sum]

He's got that "yeah...I tapped it..." look on his face...

She's not too shabby, actually. And, she has kind of a "Bond Girl"name -- "Broadwell." LOL

I feel bad for her family, though. Humiliating, it must be.

[Coito ergo sum]

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/08/fourt ... -red-tape/

Obama administration officials are finally letting the attorney for a Benghazi whistle-blower get a security clearance — but the clearance is at such a low level that it will probably slow the congressional probe of how the administration handled last year’s terrorist attack on the embassy in Benghazi, Libya.

Victoria Toensing represents an unnamed government official who can help explain the reaction of top government officials to the jihadi attack on the U.S diplomatic site in Benghazi and killed four Americans last Sept. 11.

The official may also be able to explain if officials rewrote intelligence reports and took other actions to minimize media coverage of the administration’s errors and the perceived role of Al Qaeda jihadis.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-575 ... committee/

Hoping to funnel into one chronological timeline the rampantly varying accounts of how President Obama's administration responded last Sept. 11 in the wake of an attack on a U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday will hear from three "whistleblowers" expected to offer testimony enormously at odds with the administration's characterization of a strike that killed four Americans.

Testifying are Mark Thompson, acting deputy assistant Secretary of State for counterterrorism; Greg Hicks, former deputy chief of mission in Libya; and Eric Nordstrom, former regional security officer in Libya. Excerpts of an interview Hicks did with investigators that were released to CBS News' "Face the Nation" on Sunday boomeranged the Benghazi politics back into the spotlight four months after hearings on the issue in the House and Senate.

According to Hicks, "everybody in the mission" believed it was an act of terror "from the get-go." But on Sept. 16 - five days after the attack - U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice hit the Sunday show circuit, peddling the theory that the strike began "spontaneously" out of protests in Egypt and was not a premeditated terrorist act. Rice's spot on "Face the Nation" that day was preceded by the new president of Libya, Mohammed al-Magariaf, who said his government had "no doubt that this was pre-planned, predetermined."

"I've never been as embarrassed in my life, in my career, as on that day," Hicks told investigators of Rice's appearances.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-575 ... committee/

[Coito ergo sum]

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[Coito ergo sum]

NBC News - in the pocket of the Obama administration... can you even contemplate a less incisive, more obsequious piece on the Benghazi matter than this? http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/20 ... ghazi?lite Embarrassing.

[Seth]

NBC News - in the pocket of the Obama administration... can you even contemplate a less incisive, more obsequious piece on the Benghazi matter than this? http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/20 ... ghazi?lite Embarrassing.

Nauseating, actually. All they'll do is cover Saint Obama's ass. Makes me sick.

Impeach Obama!