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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:32 pm

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-19547794
Herne Bay cat put down after air gun shooting

A pet cat has had to be put down after being shot four times with an air rifle in a deliberate attack in Kent.

X-rays taken by a vet in Herne Bay showed ginger tom Charlie had a broken leg and four wounds from an air gun following the shooting.

Kent Police said the attack happened in the Callard Close and Mickleburgh Avenue area of Herne Bay.

"Whoever did this purposely fired at Charlie, using him as a target," said Pc Alan Porter.

"This is a cruel attack on a pet cat, causing significant upset for his family."

Police have appealed to anyone with information about the shooting, which happened in the 36 hours leading up to 17:00 BST on Tuesday, to come forward.

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Post by Audley Strange » Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:34 pm

What a dick move that was. Poor cat and poor servants of cat.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:36 pm

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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:37 pm

It seems like cats are a popular choice of victim for violent wackos.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:47 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:It seems like cats are a popular choice of victim for violent wackos.
Only pussy they can interactive with.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:51 pm

:hehe:

Awhile back someone here was taking them apart and putting them back in their yard. Makes you wonder what he's taking apart these days.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:40 pm

Sean Hayden wrote::hehe:

Awhile back someone here was taking them apart and putting them back in their yard. Makes you wonder what he's taking apart these days.
Oo. That's a bit disturbing. A bit dark. I am actually wondering now.
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Post by Gerald McGrew » Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:49 pm

This should be an interesting discussion...

I live in a rural area just outside of town. To get go my place, you have to drive through a short tunnel, down a gravel road, and through some woods. This means our area is a very popular location for drop-offs of all sorts, including unwanted cats. Our local animal shelters have stopped accepting stray cats, so we can't take them there. I will not neuter and release them because of the damage they do to songbirds and other wildlife. And we simply cannot adopt them due to their sheer number.

So I shoot them.

Of course I take every precaution to make sure they're truly strays (no collars or tags, and I ask around to all the neighbors first to make sure it's not theirs). Still, it's not something I enjoy, but given the millions of stray cats in this country and the toll they take on wildlife, I feel it's something I have to do.
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Post by JimC » Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:22 am

Gerald McGrew wrote:This should be an interesting discussion...

I live in a rural area just outside of town. To get go my place, you have to drive through a short tunnel, down a gravel road, and through some woods. This means our area is a very popular location for drop-offs of all sorts, including unwanted cats. Our local animal shelters have stopped accepting stray cats, so we can't take them there. I will not neuter and release them because of the damage they do to songbirds and other wildlife. And we simply cannot adopt them due to their sheer number.

So I shoot them.

Of course I take every precaution to make sure they're truly strays (no collars or tags, and I ask around to all the neighbors first to make sure it's not theirs). Still, it's not something I enjoy, but given the millions of stray cats in this country and the toll they take on wildlife, I feel it's something I have to do.
In the Oz bush, shooting feral cats is simply an environmental must - and I say that as a cat owner...

But not with a slug-gun - at least a .22, one shot, one kill...
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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:04 am

Gerald McGrew wrote:This should be an interesting discussion...

I live in a rural area just outside of town. To get go my place, you have to drive through a short tunnel, down a gravel road, and through some woods. This means our area is a very popular location for drop-offs of all sorts, including unwanted cats. Our local animal shelters have stopped accepting stray cats, so we can't take them there. I will not neuter and release them because of the damage they do to songbirds and other wildlife. And we simply cannot adopt them due to their sheer number.

So I shoot them.

Of course I take every precaution to make sure they're truly strays (no collars or tags, and I ask around to all the neighbors first to make sure it's not theirs). Still, it's not something I enjoy, but given the millions of stray cats in this country and the toll they take on wildlife, I feel it's something I have to do.
Well in the case mentioned in the story, this was a pet cat not a stray, and there was absolutely no way the individuals involved had wildlife conservation anywhere on their minds when carrying out these acts; Indeed I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they also target wildlife.

As for situations where the impact of feral cats (or any invasive species) on wildlife is an issue, it could be argued that unless it is done as part of an thorough and organised official scheme, shooting individuals has very little, if any, long term effect in any case (unless you're dealing with a small population on, say, an isolated island; in which case you may as well just trap them anyway). Whereas although a neutered-and-released individual may kill wildlife during their lifetime, they also act as competition for un-neutered individuals, and thus reducing the size of the next generation.
Of course none of this takes into account the effects of the population being freshly topped-up by newly abandoned individuals; clearly however you think feral cat problems should be dealt with, this is the problem that must first be addressed.


But I digress; the individuals that targeted this cat were plainly not wildlife heroes wishing to protect songbirds; they were vile subhuman vermin of the kind who also find this kind of thing a good laugh.
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Post by rasetsu » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:31 am




Hey now! Psychopaths deserve to be entertained as much as the next guy.



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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:35 am

Gerald McGrew wrote:This should be an interesting discussion...

I live in a rural area just outside of town. To get go my place, you have to drive through a short tunnel, down a gravel road, and through some woods. This means our area is a very popular location for drop-offs of all sorts, including unwanted cats. Our local animal shelters have stopped accepting stray cats, so we can't take them there. I will not neuter and release them because of the damage they do to songbirds and other wildlife. And we simply cannot adopt them due to their sheer number.

So I shoot them.

Of course I take every precaution to make sure they're truly strays (no collars or tags, and I ask around to all the neighbors first to make sure it's not theirs). Still, it's not something I enjoy, but given the millions of stray cats in this country and the toll they take on wildlife, I feel it's something I have to do.
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Post by Red Celt » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:43 am

Gerald McGrew wrote:I live in a rural area just outside of town. To get go my place, you have to drive through a short tunnel, down a gravel road, and through some woods.
That sounds like an introduction to an episode of Scooby Doo. I can almost see the Mystery Machine on that gravel road.
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Post by Gerald McGrew » Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:01 pm

JimC wrote:In the Oz bush, shooting feral cats is simply an environmental must - and I say that as a cat owner...

But not with a slug-gun - at least a .22, one shot, one kill...
Exactly. We own a cat too, but feral cats are a totally different issue. And yeah, I use a .22 as well.
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Post by Gerald McGrew » Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:10 pm

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:Well in the case mentioned in the story, this was a pet cat not a stray, and there was absolutely no way the individuals involved had wildlife conservation anywhere on their minds when carrying out these acts; Indeed I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they also target wildlife.
Agreed.
As for situations where the impact of feral cats (or any invasive species) on wildlife is an issue, it could be argued that unless it is done as part of an thorough and organised official scheme, shooting individuals has very little, if any, long term effect in any case (unless you're dealing with a small population on, say, an isolated island; in which case you may as well just trap them anyway). Whereas although a neutered-and-released individual may kill wildlife during their lifetime, they also act as competition for un-neutered individuals, and thus reducing the size of the next generation.
Of course none of this takes into account the effects of the population being freshly topped-up by newly abandoned individuals; clearly however you think feral cat problems should be dealt with, this is the problem that must first be addressed.
I believe the estimates are that each cat kills an average of about 10 songbirds per year, and that includes pet cats, and as a recent NatGeo critter cam study shows, is likely a serious underestimate. It also doesn't include other prey, e.g. small mammals and reptiles. So even conservatively, I figure I'm making some difference, even if it's not huge. The other thing that keeps the cat population down out here is the large population of coyotes. The great horned owl that sets up residence on my property every year doesn't hurt either.
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