The Atheism Plus "movement" -- good, bad, ugly?

[Coito ergo sum]

I feel the love and it is full of awesome

Audley, you're right in the sense that rationalia was forced into a "side" just by being who/what we are, namely a relatively open and lightly moderated forum without a particular agenda.

Nothing wrong with being on the side of those that don't think t-shirts that say "I am not a [X]" or selling ceramic parody jewelry is sexual harassment.

Pappa's joke drew the attention but it wouldn't have mattered how many apologies were made or even if he stepped down and we all disavowed any support or friendship. We allow undesirable people like libertarians and even republicans to talk without being banned.

Even undesirables like Atheist Plus-ers can talk without being banned...

We allow bad jokes to be made without believing they define a person entirely and we disagree by
discussing and arguing as if we could make up our own minds. Worst of all there are women showing their breasts! The only way this forum would ever be deemed acceptable by atheist+ standards is to be shut down completely. We are undeniably on the other side of the fence, but it's a fence they put up while we were busy living, and it has four sides. So, they can scream, "if you're not inside these gates then you are racist, mysoginist, bigots and we don't want to associate with you!", we know that actually all it means is that we're not inside the gates, and rational people elsewhere will come to the same conclusions

Atheist Plus is not against women showing breasts. This McCreight chick is the one who started "Boobquake" which was women showing their boobs or cleavage to prove that scantily clad women don't cause earthquakes. The problem Atheist Plusers have with boob-showing is when men get sexually excited by them or even asks to see them. As long as men are silent about the boobs, and don't say "hey those are some nice boobs" then Atheist Plus is o.k. with it. It's all about modifying men's reactions to boob-showing.

[Coito ergo sum]

I think we should try to get a Rationalia blog on to FTB. There is nowhere near enough bacon on FTB.

I read something yesterday where PZ Myers wrote that blogging on FtB is by invite only. Don't call us, we'll call you, they say.

Man -- anyone blogging on FtB is suspect, in my book.

[Coito ergo sum]

Here’s a nice dilemma for the atheist+skepftbchickistas


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-19354560


On the one hand:-

book-burning, very nazi.

Criticising someone’s sexuality, definitely not very PC. definitley nono for skepchos



On the other hand:-

these are sisters fighing the good fight against the vile abusive anti-wome oppresi... ....patriarchy.

If someone posts this to their sanctityness I predict technospin unlimited or complete denial.

What if those folks objecting to the Fifty Shades of Grey books said "if you don't agree that these books are misogynistic, you're a misogynist and a rape enabler"? Perhaps someone ought to get Atheist Plus' verdict on whether anyone who doesn't object to the Fifty Shades books can be allowed in the movement....

[Jaygray]

I read something yesterday where PZ Myers wrote that blogging on FtB is by invite only. Don't call us, we'll call you, they say.

PZ should consult a Psychoanalytic Economist. His ego is suffering fron hyper-inflation.

[Clinton Huxley]

I think we should try to get a Rationalia blog on to FTB. There is nowhere near enough bacon on FTB.

I read something yesterday where PZ Myers wrote that blogging on FtB is by invite only. Don't call us, we'll call you, they say.

Man -- anyone blogging on FtB is suspect, in my book.

It's all a bit earnest, humourless, smug, patronising, divisive and egotistical. Can't be bothered with it.

[Bella Fortuna]

It's all a bit earnest, humourless, smug, patronising, divisive and egotistical.

Typical British understatement.

[Clinton Huxley]

It's all a bit earnest, humourless, smug, patronising, divisive and egotistical.

Typical British understatement.

I forgot to mention it being silly and pompous.

[Bella Fortuna]

It's all a bit earnest, humourless, smug, patronising, divisive and egotistical.

Typical British understatement.

I forgot to mention it being silly and pompous.

Better.

[colubridae]

Here’s a nice dilemma for the atheist+skepftbchickistas


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-19354560


On the one hand:-

book-burning, very nazi.

Criticising someone’s sexuality, definitely not very PC. definitley nono for skepchos



On the other hand:-

these are sisters fighing the good fight against the vile abusive anti-wome oppresi... ....patriarchy.

If someone posts this to their sanctityness I predict technospin unlimited or complete denial.

What if those folks objecting to the Fifty Shades of Grey books said "if you don't agree that these books are misogynistic, you're a misogynist and a rape enabler"? Perhaps someone ought to get Atheist Plus' verdict on whether anyone who doesn't object to the Fifty Shades books can be allowed in the movement....

Well quite. Whichever way the turn they shoot themselves in the foot.

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

[Kristie]

Here’s a nice dilemma for the atheist+skepftbchickistas


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-19354560


On the one hand:-

book-burning, very nazi.

Criticising someone’s sexuality, definitely not very PC. definitley nono for skepchos



On the other hand:-

these are sisters fighing the good fight against the vile abusive anti-wome oppresi... ....patriarchy.

If someone posts this to their sanctityness I predict technospin unlimited or complete denial.

What if those folks objecting to the Fifty Shades of Grey books said "if you don't agree that these books are misogynistic, you're a misogynist and a rape enabler"? Perhaps someone ought to get Atheist Plus' verdict on whether anyone who doesn't object to the Fifty Shades books can be allowed in the movement....

I didn't want to be a part of their stupid movement anyway!

[laklak]

Welcome to Atheism Plus tm. Freethought Macht Frei.

[colubridae]

Here’s a nice dilemma for the atheist+skepftbchickistas


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-19354560


On the one hand:-

book-burning, very nazi.

Criticising someone’s sexuality, definitely not very PC. definitley nono for skepchos



On the other hand:-

these are sisters fighing the good fight against the vile abusive anti-wome oppresi... ....patriarchy.

If someone posts this to their sanctityness I predict technospin unlimited or complete denial.

What if those folks objecting to the Fifty Shades of Grey books said "if you don't agree that these books are misogynistic, you're a misogynist and a rape enabler"? Perhaps someone ought to get Atheist Plus' verdict on whether anyone who doesn't object to the Fifty Shades books can be allowed in the movement....

I didn't want to be a part of their stupid movement anyway!

The first rule of atheist+ is you can be thrown out of atheist+ if you don't want to be in atheist+

The second rule of atheist+ is you can be thrown out of atheist+ for making dumb rules like rule #1.

The third rule is you can be thrown out of atheist+ [That's enough rules - ed.]

[Coito ergo sum]

I didn't want to be a part of their stupid movement anyway!

It's more of a bowel movement...

[Bella Fortuna]

Welcome to Atheism Plus tm. Freethought Macht Frei.

Previously posted but worth it again:



Shall we have a banner that says "Thought makes you free" ?