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Re: The Civil War Within Skepticism

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:08 am

I started off not giving a fuck about all this but now I'm intrigued as to how it's all going to turn out.
...Will it all end with a single gunshot echoing through a reinforced concrete bunker under the FfTB top secret headquarters, I wonder? :ask:
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Post by rachelbean » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:32 am

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Post by Thinking Aloud » Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:43 pm

We should set up "A-".

ATHEISTS MINUS things that we ... you know ... stuff:
  • Atheists Minus: we hardly ever remember that we don't care that we don't believe in gods because the bacon is too damned nice.
  • Atheists Minus: OTHER THINGS! :drunk: *
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Re: The Civil War Within Skepticism

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:22 pm

And, regarding the false DMCA issue.... it has, apparently, been confirmed that "Surly Amy" (the chick who makes ceramic jewelry, and then stated that conferences should have rules that say that nobody else can sell ceramic jewelry except her...), was the chick who filed the "false DMCA" claim.... http://elevatorgate.wordpress.com/2012/ ... a-notices/

Interestingly, as with just about everything Skepchicks do, there is to be one rule for everyone else, and another rule for them. Surly Amy objects to someone picturing her jewelry on a blog in order to comment, discuss and critique it -- hence the DMCA claim she filed. But, she believes that she can use the Namco Pacman copyrighted and trademarked designs on her jewelry....http://www.etsy.com/listing/99261745/i- ... eramic-pac

This is classic: http://atheiststoday.com/articles.php?article_id=23

So, let's take it from the top:

Surly Amy -- manufactures Surly Ramics (aka, crappy ceramic jewelry) and she hawks them at atheist and skeptic events -- for a (*gasp*) "profit." LOL -- she invests her capital, creates a product, sells it on the open market, and derives a profit....what an evil person she is....

She doesn't want anyone else to be able to sell ceramic jewelry at skeptic and atheist events, because, I guess anything other than "Surly-authorized" jewelry is verboten, especially if it parodies her....

Nevertheless, without a license from the copyright owner, she feels she can market and sell jewelry with copyrighted commercial images on them...

Got it, Surly Amy -- another example of Skepchicklogic.

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Re: The Civil War Within Skepticism

Post by Animavore » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:28 pm

How many Skepchicks are there anyway?

They're like 'roaches.
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Re: The Civil War Within Skepticism

Post by Robert_S » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:33 pm

Ok this is not the DMCA notice from the Youtubes of Girlwriteswhat.

Ani, I think there's around 40 of them.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by Animavore » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:34 pm

40?

I'm making a list :smug:
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Re: The Civil War Within Skepticism

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:38 pm

:heh: pwned.

I read earlier that someone (I forget who, now.) claimed they were going to set an attourney on Youtube because their automated DMCA complaints procedure is open to abuse such as that employed by certain unscrupulous parties (to try to obtain personal info).
Is this likely to succeed, do you think? :ask:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:45 pm

Robert_S wrote:Ok this is not the DMCA notice from the Youtubes of Girlwriteswhat.
Nope. This is ANOTHER false DMCA thing...

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Re: The Civil War Within Skepticism

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:48 pm

JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote::heh: pwned.

I read earlier that someone (I forget who, now.) claimed they were going to set an attourney on Youtube because their automated DMCA complaints procedure is open to abuse such as that employed by certain unscrupulous parties (to try to obtain personal info).
Is this likely to succeed, do you think? :ask:
Doubtful. What they might be able to do by initiating the action, though, is get solid confirmation on who the persons are that filed the DMCA claims.

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Re: The Civil War Within Skepticism

Post by Robert_S » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:55 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Robert_S wrote:Ok this is not the DMCA notice from the Youtubes of Girlwriteswhat.
Nope. This is ANOTHER false DMCA thing...
OK as far as I know, there is no word on who did the youtube ones.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:55 pm

Animavore wrote:40?

I'm making a list :smug:
Hoping they're Latvian?
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Re: The Civil War Within Skepticism

Post by Animavore » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:01 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
Animavore wrote:40?

I'm making a list :smug:
Hoping they're Latvian?
Hoping they're good looking :tut:
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Re: The Civil War Within Skepticism

Post by Pappa » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:03 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:We should set up "A-".

ATHEISTS MINUS things that we ... you know ... stuff:
  • Atheists Minus: we hardly ever remember that we don't care that we don't believe in gods because the bacon is too damned nice.
  • Atheists Minus: OTHER THINGS! :drunk: *
* Smiley representing drunken state not representative of all Atheist Minus acolytes.
:hmph:

I said that earlier, but my post was jinxed by being the last on the page.

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