What the US needs is Bill Clinton.

[pErvinalia]

That's all very nice. You seemed to have missed the numerous references I've made in this thread to being uninterested in getting into a full on debate about this. I'm still uninterested. You seem desperate to debate with me. Surely you can find someone else to debate? I've done this shit to death for years now on the internet. I'm tired of it. I need a break from it at times. I spent half of last night and now a couple of hours this morning viciously destroying some racist fucksticks on an Australian facebook page. I don't like being an angry cunt all the time. And debating about neoliberalism makes me an angry cunt because it is destroying the world. That's how serious I view this debate, and that explains why I can get horribly vicious. But I need a break. Find someone else to debate with.

[MrJonno]

I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat. My voter registration card says "no party affiliation," and I can't in good conscience have one, since I have many views which are not in accord with either party, and I share many views with both. I tended to agree with Hitchens on foreign policy, but not on Trotskyite Communism. I tend to agree with Austiran economics and Milton Freidman, rather than Krugman (whose economics I can never seem to rationalize). I am pro-choice on abortion, pro-gay marriage and equal rights for homosexuals, I am pro civil rights laws, pro-antitrust and anti-monopoly laws, I am pro free speech, pro freedom of and from religion, pro-REASONABLE gun laws but also pro private ownership of firearms, I am pro-rights of the accused in criminal trials and very cautious about giving powers to the government and law enforcement, I am pro legal immigration but very much opposed to illegal immigration (as are my immigrant parents and immigrant wife), I am in favor of lower taxes and lower government spending and fiscal responsibillity, I hate government waste and pork barrel politics, and I can't fucking stand Marxist socialism and its offshoots, and I can't stand fascism or totalitarianism, and I am very much anti-authoritarian, I hate nanny-statism and I think the government would to better to stay out of our personal lives - for the same reason a woman should have a right to an abortion, I should have the right to a supersize beverage, a giant cheeseburger in paradise, a cigar, and too many scotches. That about sums up where I'm coming from. Does that make me brainwashed and a foxnews devotee?

Makes you right on some issues wrong on others and probably implies if I met you down the pub I would a fair chance of leaving alive

[Coito ergo sum]

That's all very nice. You seemed to have missed the numerous references I've made in this thread to being uninterested in getting into a full on debate about this. I'm still uninterested.

What I take issue with is your nonsense.

You seem desperate to debate with me. Surely you can find someone else to debate? I've done this shit to death for years now on the internet. I'm tired of it. I need a break from it at times. I spent half of last night and now a couple of hours this morning viciously destroying some racist fucksticks on an Australian facebook page. I don't like being an angry cunt all the time. And debating about neoliberalism makes me an angry cunt because it is destroying the world. That's how serious I view this debate, and that explains why I can get horribly vicious. But I need a break. Find someone else to debate with.

If your vicious destruction is anything like I've seen around here, it's just you making unsupported, conclusory declarations and claiming victory.