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Will Drought Cause the Next Blackout?
By MICHAEL E. WEBBER
Published: July 23, 2012 3 Comments

WE’RE now in the midst of the nation’s most widespread drought in 60 years, stretching across 29 states and threatening farmers, their crops and livestock. But there is another risk as water becomes more scarce. Power plants may be forced to shut down, and oil and gas production may be threatened.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:03 pm

"So tell me, what happens if the power goes out and all the air conditioners are no longer working?"

"We'll just have to get by on fans I guess."
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Too good ......
Climate change skeptic causes a stir with his about-face
Published on Tuesday August 07, 2012

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A prominent climate change skeptic’s about-face on the subject is causing a stir in the world of environmental science.

In a self-proclaimed “total turnaround,” Richard A. Muller, a physics professor at the University of California, Berkeley, now says human greenhouse gas emissions are almost entirely to blame for global warming.

“Call me a converted skeptic,” Muller wrote in a July 28 New York Times op-ed. Three years ago, he said, he doubted whether global warming even existed. “Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct.

“I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.”

While many scientific organizations reached that conclusion years ago, it’s one Muller wasn’t comfortable reaching until now, he told the Star.

“If that classifies me as a skeptic, I consider that proper skepticism; something that’s a duty for any scientist.”

Muller’s opinion is based on the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project, which he co-founded. Its results show the average temperature of the Earth’s land has risen by 1.5 C over the past 250 years.

The match between the temperature records and carbon dioxide records suggests human greenhouse gas emissions are the best explanation for the warming, the study says.

Muller says the findings are stronger than those from the latest UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report in 2007.

The project’s results are “elegantly simple,” Muller said. It rules out changes in solar activity in global warming and shows that volcanic eruptions have short-term, but not long-term, effects on global temperatures.

Some critics have dismissed Muller’s reversal as a publicity stunt. Others caution that the research hasn’t been peer-reviewed. Judith Curry, a climatologist at the Georgia Institute of Technology, called its analysis “way over simplistic and not at all convincing” on her blog.

But Muller told the Star he’s “delighted” at the amount of reaction the project has received and thinks it will remain of interest to people he calls “thoughtful skeptics.”

“Many of them have been attacked for being anti-science. I always thought that was unfair — I thought the thoughtful skeptics were raising valid points. We tried to address those points.”

Another twist to the news: one of the project’s sources of funding is the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation. Koch and his brother David are the billionaire owners of Koch Industries Inc., the conglomerate with annual revenues estimated at $100 billion, and are known for bankrolling conservative causes.

Penn State geoscientist Michael Mann, whose “hockey stick” graph showing a rise in global temperatures in the 20th century has faced criticism from global-warming skeptics, pointed this out in a Facebook post. “There is a certain ironic satisfaction in seeing a study funded by the Koch Brothers — the greatest funders of climate change denial and disinformation on the planet — demonstrate what scientists have known with some degree of confidence for nearly two decades,” he wrote.
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I plan to evolve gills. I've been told that's how it works.
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Nibbler wrote:I plan to evolve gills. I've been told that's how it works.
Re-evolve :hehe:
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Tyrannical wrote:
Nibbler wrote:I plan to evolve gills. I've been told that's how it works.
Re-evolve :hehe:
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:43 am

Tyrannical wrote:Why Global Warming does not bother me.

Worse case scenario, the oceans rise fifty feet in a hundred years. I'm confident that the US could build a fifty foot sea wall along thousands of miles of coast in a hundred years. Call it the Great Wall of America :{D
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Nibbler wrote: I weren't no monkey, buoy! I ain't especially been no fish!
Nor me.

And I ain't no Irishman either.

But my Daddy was.
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What cunt this man is.



Not only a cunt but a lying bastard.
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Post by macdoc » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:05 pm

Sometimes calling a spade a spade IS appropriate.
..time to stop pulling punches on this subject..there is no more room for civil
.......just sayin' :coffee:

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Good thoughts on the food impact
Tomgram: Michael Klare, Post-Apocalyptic Fantasy Becomes Everyday Reality
Posted by Michael Klare at 9:12am, August 7, 2012.

Wherever you look, the heat, the drought, and the fires stagger the imagination. Now, it’s Oklahoma at the heart of the American firestorm, with “18 straight days of 100-plus degree temperatures and persistent drought” and so many fires in neighboring states that extra help is unavailable. It’s the summer of heat across the U.S., where the first six months of the year have been the hottest on record (and the bugs are turning out in droves in response). Heat records are continually being broken. More than 52% of the country is now experiencing some level of drought, and drought conditions are actually intensifying in the Midwest; 66% of the Illinois corn crop is in “poor” or “very poor” shape, with similarly devastating percentages across the rest of the Midwest. The average is 48% across the corn belt, and for soybeans 37% -- and it looks as if next year’s corn crop may be endangered as well. More than half of U.S. counties are officially in drought conditions and, according to the Department of Agriculture, “three-quarters of the nation's cattle acreage is now inside a drought-stricken area, as is about two-thirds of the country's hay acreage.” Worse yet, there’s no help in sight -- not from the heavens, not even from Congress, which adjourned for the summer without passing a relief package for farmers suffering through some of the worst months since the Dust Bowl of the 1930s.

In sum, it’s swelteringly, unnerving bad right now in a way that most of us can’t remember. And that’s the present moment. The question of what lies ahead is the territory occupied by TomDispatch regular Michael Klare, author most recently of The Race for What’s Left: The Global Scramble for the World’s Last Resources. From the time he published his book Resource Wars back in 2001, he’s been ahead of the curve on such questions and he suggests that we’re going to have an uncomfortably hot time in all sorts of unexpected ways on this increasingly hot planet of ours. Tom

The Hunger Wars in Our Future
Heat, Drought, Rising Food Costs, and Global Unrest

By Michael T. Klare

The Great Drought of 2012 has yet to come to an end, but we already know that its consequences will be severe. With more than one-half of America’s counties designated as drought disaster areas, the 2012 harvest of corn, soybeans, and other food staples is guaranteed to fall far short of predictions. This, in turn, will boost food prices domestically and abroad, causing increased misery for farmers and low-income Americans and far greater hardship for poor people in countries that rely on imported U.S. grains.

This, however, is just the beginning of the likely consequences: if history is any guide, rising food prices of this sort will also lead to widespread social unrest and violent conflict.
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and from Hansen who also is not known for pulling punches....
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Game Over for the Climate
By JAMES HANSEN
Published: May 9, 2012

GLOBAL warming isn’t a prediction. It is happening.
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That is the long-term outlook. But near-term, things will be bad enough. Over the next several decades, the Western United States and the semi-arid region from North Dakota to Texas will develop semi-permanent drought, with rain, when it does come, occurring in extreme events with heavy flooding. Economic losses would be incalculable. More and more of the Midwest would be a dust bowl. California’s Central Valley could no longer be irrigated. Food prices would rise to unprecedented levels.

If this sounds apocalyptic, it is.
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Meanwhile in an Arctic near you
Cyclone warning!

I have postponed this post until I was sure that what follows is going to happen.

Remember the term 'flash melting'? That's when from one day to the next large swathes of ice disappear on the University of Bremen sea ice concentration maps. We witnessed one such instance last year when a relatively large and intense low-pressure area moved in from Alaska over the ice in the Beaufort and Chukchi Sea regions (see blog post). It lasted about a day or two and then quickly faded, but the effects were spectacular.

Well, it looks like we have something bigger coming up this year.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:08 pm

Hottest July in history here this year. I think the Train Wreckers can testify it was a tad warmish. And that was a cooler stretch.
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:38 pm

If only temperature readings weren't taken so often from large asphalt concrete jungles.

Paint it white instead :hehe:
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Hottest July in history here this year. I think the Train Wreckers can testify it was a tad warmish. And that was a cooler stretch.
Yeah, by all of 0.2 degrees. Whoopee, we're all gonna die!
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:42 pm

Seth wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Hottest July in history here this year. I think the Train Wreckers can testify it was a tad warmish. And that was a cooler stretch.
Yeah, by all of 0.2 degrees. Whoopee, we're all gonna die!
We set records for 13 straight months before that. You may blow that off if you wish.
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