You guys and your guns...

[FBM]

BEIJING—A teenager killed eight people with a knife and wounded five more in northeast China after falling out with his girlfriend, state media said Thursday.

The teen killed two of her family members and six more people before fleeing, the state-run Legal Daily newspaper said. It reported he was caught but did not describe the circumstances.

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Looks like outlawing guns worked wonders for China.

I thought about posting that. Hasn't helped all those Chinese kids who have been attacked in the past few years, either.

[laklak]

You can't compare China and the USA because it supports your point. Since you're a bona fide gun nut, whatever point you try to make is automatically moot. You are wrong and crazy and dangerous and are probably rapey and should be locked up in a mental institution until you can sing all the words to Kumbaya.

[Coito ergo sum]

Wronge, everybody on this thread is nuts, except mistermack who is pure bolts.

And you've got a screw loose...

You really hit the nail on the head.

That one's been used. You'll need to take another tack.

Let me think on it for a bit...

[Tyrannical]

BEIJING—A teenager killed eight people with a knife and wounded five more in northeast China after falling out with his girlfriend, state media said Thursday.

The teen killed two of her family members and six more people before fleeing, the state-run Legal Daily newspaper said. It reported he was caught but did not describe the circumstances.

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Looks like outlawing guns worked wonders for China.

I thought about posting that. Hasn't helped all those Chinese kids who have been attacked in the past few years, either.

What needs to be outlawed is crazy people. We used to have no problem locking unstable people up for life for severe mental instability. If psychologist / psychiatrists were held criminally responsible for failing to commit these people we would not have a problem.

[FBM]

Wronge, everybody on this thread is nuts, except mistermack who is pure bolts.

And you've got a screw loose...

You really hit the nail on the head.

That one's been used. You'll need to take another tack.

Let me think on it for a bit...

A drill bit?

[FBM]

What needs to be outlawed is crazy people. We used to have no problem locking unstable people up for life for severe mental instability. If psychologist / psychiatrists were held criminally responsible for failing to commit these people we would not have a problem.

Problem is, you run into this little issue of drawing the line between sane and insane. In order to do that, you'd have to take on the role of Big Brother. What's that meme about an individual who thinks an invisible being is running everthing being crazy, but thousands of people believing the same thing as being religious?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Poison gas in Japanese subways anyone?

[Blind groper]

Now you're saying they can have all the guns they want, we just need laws about where you can carry them loaded?

Coito

I have been saying all along that the problem is hand guns. If you take another look at the graph I posted, see how many murders are done with hand guns and how few with other firearms in the USA.

Handguns are tools for murder. Outside of the police and the military, they have no legitimate use that could not be done better with a rifle. But hand guns have the properties of portability and being able to be easily concealed. This means that any nasty bastard can hide the gun on his person and carry it where he goes. Meaning that, in any situation where the nasty bastard gets pissed off, out comes the gun and someone is murdered.

If hand guns were outlawed by federal law, the number of such concealed and carried weapons would fall, and so would the murder rate. Passing such a law would not immediately solve the problem, since too many nasty bastards would ignore the new law. However, with the police instructed to arrest anyone carrying a hand gun, even the evil sods would become reluctant to carry one. Over time, the number of hand gun murders would drop as hand guns became harder to get.

I have no problem with people who have a legitimate need owning a rifle or shotgun. They are used for hunting or for eliminating pest animals. They are better able to hit any target than a hand gun, and thus are better for self defense in the home. The only thing they lack is the ability to hide them on your person, meaning you cannot carry one around without the police immediately noticing. Where the nasty asshole can carry a hand gun, he cannot carry a rifle.

[Warren Dew]

Poison gas in Japanese subways anyone?

Clearly it's the Japanese cultural preference for poison gas that keeps their murder rate 3x lower than western Europe. JimC take note. If you really cared about murder victims, you'd legalize poison gas!

[Warren Dew]

However, with the police instructed to arrest anyone carrying a hand gun, even the evil sods would become reluctant to carry one.

So true. Just look at how no one at all uses drugs in America, because they know doing so could get them arrested!

[Blind groper]

So true. Just look at how no one at all uses drugs in America, because they know doing so could get them arrested!

Depends how the police react. I could easily see the police being very assiduous about checking for concealed hand guns, because that would give them an excuse to arrest the gang members and other crims, because that is what the police want to do.

[Rum]

Something occurred to me to ask earlier. Is it legal to carry a spear or perhaps a sword, or perhaps a polarm to protect yourself in the USA? You could save a lot of money and visually advertise the fact that you have the means to inflict harm on those around you if you wished to without all the fuss and safety crap associated with guns. Hell you could fly a rebel flag on the end of a polarm if you wanted to! No amulintion costs either. Plus you get some exercise while defending yourself! Win win!

Do you see much of this sort of thing over there?

[Warren Dew]

So true. Just look at how no one at all uses drugs in America, because they know doing so could get them arrested!

Depends how the police react. I could easily see the police being very assiduous about checking for concealed hand guns, because that would give them an excuse to arrest the gang members and other crims, because that is what the police want to do.

Same is true for drugs, actually.

[Warren Dew]

Something occurred to me to ask earlier. Is it legal to carry a spear or perhaps a sword, or perhaps a polarm to protect yourself in the USA? You could save a lot of money and visually advertise the fact that you have the means to inflict harm on those around you if you wished to without all the fuss and safety crap associated with guns. Hell you could fly a rebel flag on the end of a polarm if you wanted to! No amulintion costs either. Plus you get some exercise while defending yourself! Win win!

Do you see much of this sort of thing over there?

You seem to have missed the point about why concealed carry laws only protect concealed weapons.

[Coito ergo sum]

You'd be shocked to know, Rum, that you could go years at a time here in the States without seeing any sort of weapon. I know that is a shock, given what folks in Yerup seem to think goes on here, but it is true. I have driven to work unarmed every day of my life, and made it safely each time I tried it.