Mitt Romney blows it in the UK - YAY!

[Coito ergo sum]

If you'll cheer naked, yes.

Maybe later.

Late does me no good right now.

[Kristie]

If you'll cheer naked, yes.

Maybe later.

Late does me no good right now.

Fine, then I won't bother with doing it later.

[Coito ergo sum]

Yeah, definitely with CES on this one... It took me several minutes of following links just to find what Romney even said in the first place. All the "news" is about brits' reactions to it and no one has bothered to address what he actually said.

It's all a bunch of "nyah nyah" schoolyard nonsense.

Yep.

It's allowed from time to time.

Well we like Obama and as a rule the democrats. Given their record, especially Bush's, and the perception that Blaire because his poodle the Brits get a bit nervous about the Republicans.

So...you don't like the guy who liked the Brits....but, you do like the guy who thinks you're bunch of colonialist arseholes...

Obama sides with Argentina.... http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nileg ... falklands/

Early in his Presidency, Gordon Brown couldn't even get a meeting with Obama.

And, remember when he gave the Brits a set of DVDs of classic movies as a gift (something anyone could buy for a couple hundred dollars max). The DVDs were given when the British Prime Minister gave Obama an ornamental pen holder made from the timbers of the Victorian anti-slave ship HMS Gannet. That was very thoughtful, since the President's desk is carved from the Gannet's sister ship. In addition, the Brits gave Obama a framed commission for the HMS Resolute and a first edition of the seven-volume biography of Churchill.

But, yeah - the "gaffe" of suggesting that there were problems preparing for the Olympics, when there were, in fact, problems preparing for the Olympics, is so much worse than giving your closest ally a set of fucking DVDs, and then siding with Argentina in a dispute over an island system that Argentina never owned and which has nothing but British citizens on it (who want to remain British citizens).... that's "statesmanship" and that's really being a friend.

Yeah - Romney is such an arsehole, and Obama is such a great guy. No wonder the "average Brit" loves him so much...

[Coito ergo sum]

If you'll cheer naked, yes.

Maybe later.

Late does me no good right now.

Fine, then I won't bother with doing it later.

[Rum]

Yeah, definitely with CES on this one... It took me several minutes of following links just to find what Romney even said in the first place. All the "news" is about brits' reactions to it and no one has bothered to address what he actually said.

It's all a bunch of "nyah nyah" schoolyard nonsense.

Yep.

It's allowed from time to time.

Well we like Obama and as a rule the democrats. Given their record, especially Bush's, and the perception that Blaire because his poodle the Brits get a bit nervous about the Republicans.

So...you don't like the guy who liked the Brits....but, you do like the guy who thinks you're bunch of colonialist arseholes...

Obama sides with Argentina.... http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nileg ... falklands/

Early in his Presidency, Gordon Brown couldn't even get a meeting with Obama.

And, remember when he gave the Brits a set of DVDs of classic movies as a gift (something anyone could buy for a couple hundred dollars max). The DVDs were given when the British Prime Minister gave Obama an ornamental pen holder made from the timbers of the Victorian anti-slave ship HMS Gannet. That was very thoughtful, since the President's desk is carved from the Gannet's sister ship. In addition, the Brits gave Obama a framed commission for the HMS Resolute and a first edition of the seven-volume biography of Churchill.

But, yeah - the "gaffe" of suggesting that there were problems preparing for the Olympics, when there were, in fact, problems preparing for the Olympics, is so much worse than giving your closest ally a set of fucking DVDs, and then siding with Argentina in a dispute over an island system that Argentina never owned and which has nothing but British citizens on it (who want to remain British citizens).... that's "statesmanship" and that's really being a friend.

Yeah - Romney is such an arsehole, and Obama is such a great guy. No wonder the "average Brit" loves him so much...

You appear to have mistaken me for someone who subscribes to that low for-headed notion/emotion called 'patriotism'. I quite like being British because there are quite a few advantages and it is a decent , safe place to live for the most part. But if Obama has views which go against or so called national interest so be it. It is no skin off my nose.

Arguments require convictions and I don't have too many I am pleased to say. One of the few I do have is that society should be organised for the greatest good for the greatest number and the Republicans don't appear to like that idea, so ergo I don't like them or what they stand for. ..which incidentally seems to veer increasingly and wildly as well as alarmingly to the ignorant right.

[Audley Strange]

Yeah, definitely with CES on this one... It took me several minutes of following links just to find what Romney even said in the first place. All the "news" is about brits' reactions to it and no one has bothered to address what he actually said.

It's all a bunch of "nyah nyah" schoolyard nonsense.

Yep.

It's allowed from time to time.

Well we like Obama and as a rule the democrats. Given their record, especially Bush's, and the perception that Blaire because his poodle the Brits get a bit nervous about the Republicans.

So...you don't like the guy who liked the Brits....but, you do like the guy who thinks you're bunch of colonialist arseholes...

Obama sides with Argentina.... http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nileg ... falklands/

Early in his Presidency, Gordon Brown couldn't even get a meeting with Obama.

And, remember when he gave the Brits a set of DVDs of classic movies as a gift (something anyone could buy for a couple hundred dollars max). The DVDs were given when the British Prime Minister gave Obama an ornamental pen holder made from the timbers of the Victorian anti-slave ship HMS Gannet. That was very thoughtful, since the President's desk is carved from the Gannet's sister ship. In addition, the Brits gave Obama a framed commission for the HMS Resolute and a first edition of the seven-volume biography of Churchill.

But, yeah - the "gaffe" of suggesting that there were problems preparing for the Olympics, when there were, in fact, problems preparing for the Olympics, is so much worse than giving your closest ally a set of fucking DVDs, and then siding with Argentina in a dispute over an island system that Argentina never owned and which has nothing but British citizens on it (who want to remain British citizens).... that's "statesmanship" and that's really being a friend.

Yeah - Romney is such an arsehole, and Obama is such a great guy. No wonder the "average Brit" loves him so much...

I think it was just a bit of novelty since we've never had a black prime minister and wanted to appear all tolerant and cool. He's a goon same as Romney.

[Coito ergo sum]

Patriotism has nothing to do with it.

You seemed ecstatic about this "gaffe" you cited in the OP, and how bad this was "diplomatically" because it was an insult to Britain. Yes?

You also stated you and most Brits like Obama and dislike Bush, Republicans, and therefore Romney. My point in bringing up the other incidents was that Bush and the Republicans, and Romney, openly state that they like you guys, and Obama doesn't, and the GOP folks respect you guys, and Obama clearly doesn't, from his history in dealing with the Brits.

It's not about "views against your national interest" -- it's about dumb-ass views that make no sense (siding with Argentina over the Falklands), and insulting your government and your country (DVD set, among other things).

The Republicans do have that same idea - greatest good for greatest number. They are, however, of the opinion that the greatest good for the greatest number is achieved differently than is proposed by the Democrats.

[Rum]

1. I am not in the least ecstatic. The man comes over as an arse though.
2. He clearly was clumsy and created a bad impression however you spin it.
3. I am not as stupid as I look and I understood the contradiction you pointed out and said I was happy to live with it - in other words.
4. I will grudgingly accept that the Republicans probably do wish the greatest good the the greatest number, but their method - make the richer richer and the poor will benefit in due course is clearly a mandate for exploitation, profiteering and oppression.

[Coito ergo sum]

1. I am not in the least ecstatic. The man comes over as an arse though.

probably has a lot to do with your predisposition to hate the guy. What has he actually said that is arse-ish?

2. He clearly was clumsy and created a bad impression however you spin it.

That isn't clear at all. I listened to and watched the video which apparently caused the kerfuffle. It seems like a manufactured thing. Someone looking to grab something they could spin into "Romney doesn't like the Brits" and then they publish articles, generally conveniently leaving out any link to the video and any direct quotations. What seems far more clear is that this was a hit piece.

3. I am not as stupid as I look and I understood the contradiction you pointed out and said I was happy to live with it - in other words.

Obama clearly is less of a friend to Britain than Bush was, or Romney would be. That much is certain.

4. I will grudgingly accept that the Republicans probably do wish the greatest good the the greatest number, but their method - make the richer richer and the poor will benefit in due course is clearly a mandate for exploitation, profiteering and oppression.

Their methods don't, statistically, do that, and haven't done that.

[macdoc]

[mistermack]

Mit Romney is obviously not very competent as a statesman.

If you run for president, you know that anything you say has to be able to stand on it's own, out of context.
The media will always look for any way they can to cut down a quote, to make a headline.

Romney clearly hasn't got the brains to understand that. He could have said NOTHING, and left a better impression. You've got to be pretty dumb to make a statement which is worse than NOTHING.

That means a stuffed dummy could have done better.

As a Republican candidate, he seems perfect.

[Ian]

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[Svartalf]

If you'll cheer naked, yes.

You would have wanted Merkel to cheer naked?

[Kristie]

If you'll cheer naked, yes.

You would have wanted Merkel to cheer naked?

He wanted me to, but then he changed his mind.

[Svartalf]

I thought he was telling of Germans cheering...