Religious gun nut kills Batman moviegoers

[Coito ergo sum]

There was some concern, I think, that he had rigged the place with booby traps or something. At least that is what I heard from someone else who said they heard it on the news. So....

[Twoflower]

I just read in a news article that his apartment was rigged with explosives.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I just read in a news article that his apartment was rigged with explosives.

Hence the alternate entrance.

[Coito ergo sum]

I'm against the death penalty, but I think they should hang this guy from a streetlight in the center of town, and gut him like the pig it is.

No 'ffense to pigs meant...

[Drewish]

I'm against the death penalty, but I think they should hang this guy from a streetlight in the center of town, and gut him like the pig it is.

No 'ffense to pigs meant...

So in other words, you're not against it.

[Jason]

Something doesn't add up for me. He was in the adjoining cinema, armed with a rifle and a handgun, firing through the wall randomly, and there are 14+ dead and many more wounded?

[amused]

It's obviously time to round up all the gun owners and shoot them, just to be sure.

We can start with the registered gun owners 'cause they'll be easy to find.

[Seabass]

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) is the most reprehensible piece of shit in recent memory and I hope he dies in a fire which has snakes living in the fire and the snakes bite him repeatedly as he's being burned to death

I see your opportunistic hate mongering, and I raise you a political narrative atrocity spin.

Wow, a sane article from Slate!

Blame everyone but the guy who did it. Fucking politics...

[macdoc]

Sad and incredible all at once. :-(

Jessica Ghawi: Victim of Colorado theatre shooting was also at Eaton Centre shooting



HANDOUT-JAY MELOFF/THE CANADIAN PRESS Jessica Ghawi is shown with her hockey player boyfriend Jay Meloff in a photo taken from Meloff's Facebook page. Ghawi, who narrowly missed a deadly shooting at Toronto's Eaton Centre last month, was among the victims of a deadly shooting at a Colorado movie theatre on Friday.

Jessica Ghawi wrote on her blog in June that she had a new-found appreciation for the preciousness of life after surviving the Eaton Centre shooting. Little more than a month later, she would be dead, killed in Colorado by a man wielding a gun, something she had so narrowly avoided in Toronto.

Ghawi, 24, was one of 12 people killed when a gunman opened fire in a movie theatre in Aurora, just outside of Denver, a little bit after midnight on Friday. The Texan aspiring sports broadcaster, known professionally as Jessica Redfield, had went to see the premiere of the latest Batman movie, The Dark Knight Rises, with her friend Brent Lowak. She would not make it out alive.

Lowak, who remains in hospital after he, too, was shot, later told Ghawi’s brother, Jordan, that Jessica had been shot in the leg and head. On his blog, Jordan Ghawi recounted Lowak’s story, writing that Lowak and Jessica were sitting in the middle portion of the theatre, when a device was thrown in their direction “that produced a ‘hissing sound.’”

Amid the panic and confusion that gripped the theatre, Jessica urged Lowak to call 911. It was while he was attending to her injured leg that he said Jessica received the shot to her head. After that, she could no longer be heard screaming.

Over 50 people were injured in the shooting, one of the deadliest in recent U.S. memory. Police have arrested 24-year-old medical school dropout James Holmes in connection with the incident.

Jessica Ghawi’s death sparked an outpouring of condolences through social media on Friday, with both her name and the Eaton Centre trending in Toronto on Twitter, bringing back painful memories for the city’s residents. Tweets also came from several NHL players, as well as Toronto-based The Hockey News.

Many spoke of how Ghawi’s death by gunshot was a cruel twist of fate, considering just three minutes had separated her between life and possible death in early June at the Eaton Centre when a different gunman shot into a crowd of innocent people.

Ghawi had been in Toronto to visit her hockey player boyfriend, Jay Meloff. In the last post on her blog, dated June 5, she wrote of having been on a mission at the Eaton Centre to shop and eat sushi. But for some reason, she decided at the last minute to eat a burger instead.

She wrote that her receipt showed 6:20 p.m. as the time, at which point something led her to go outside in the rain, rather than pursue her shopping expedition. The first shots rang out at 6:23 p.m.

It was only later she would find out that she was eating in the same spot where the shooter would open fire and that, had she gone for sushi, she would have been in the same place where one of the victims had been.

“I was reminded that we don’t know when or where our time on Earth will end. When or where we will breathe our last breath,” she wrote. “I wish I could shake this odd feeling from my chest . . . The feeling that may have potentially saved my life.”

On Friday, Meloff tweeted that Ghawi “made the world unbelievably better for everyone who got to spend time with her.”

According to an article posted Friday on the Denver portal of news website SB Nation, Meloff was trying out for the Denver Cutthroats, a minor league hockey team. The article’s author, Cheryl Bradley, wrote that a major reason Meloff wanted to play in Denver was to be closer to Ghawi.

Among those remembering Ghawi on Friday was Peter Burns, morning show host of Denver’s Mile High Sports, who described Ghawi as a passionate hockey fan who was “vibrant and full of life,” saying she was the kind of person “who would show up at every [Colorado] Avalanche game.”

Burns knew Ghawi well. She had interned for him in San Antonio, Texas, and she followed him when he moved to Colorado. Other radio stations she worked at include Clear Channel San Antonio and 104.3 The Fan in Denver.

On air, Burns told a story about how, during dinner with his wife and Ghawi a week ago, she had said she wanted to start a charity for victims of the wildfires that had been raging through the state, particularly to help children who had lost their hockey gear.

“Even if she could just help three or four families, that would have been great. That was the kind of person she was,” he said.

She also worked at Denver-based You Can Play, an organization that supports LGBT athletes founded by Patrick Burke, son of Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brian Burke. Patrick Burke tweeted “Jessica interned for us for a few months. She was a wonderful, bright, talented woman.” The organization is not commenting further for the time being.

Ghawi’s friend Jesse Spector, national NHL writer for Sporting News, posted a piece Friday morning saying that Ghawi possessed the kind of enthusiasm and passion for sports and journalism that were needed for success.

Spector was the last person to receive a tweet from Ghawi on the night she died. She tweeted “Movie doesn’t start for another 20 minutes.”

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article ... e-shooting

[Tero]

Well?

[Coito ergo sum]

I'm against the death penalty, but I think they should hang this guy from a streetlight in the center of town, and gut him like the pig it is.

No 'ffense to pigs meant...

So in other words, you're not against it.

I am generally, but these extreme cases get my blood boiling. I feel that way about child molesters, too.

There are certain categories of crimes where if guilt is clear and the crime heinous, I see no possibility of rehabilitation (or even any desire to rehabilitate - at a certain point, a crime is so heinous that even if we could rehabilitate the guy, I don't think we'd want to...).

So, in a sense you are right. But, hard cases make bad law, as they say. I can live with a world that puts this guy in a cell for the rest of his life to rot. I don't want the death penalty in most of the cases in which it is imposed, though.

[Wumbologist]

It's obviously time to round up all the gun owners and shoot them, just to be sure.

We can start with the registered gun owners 'cause they'll be easy to find.

Can we just ban Batman instead?

[Rum]

I'm against the death penalty, but I think they should hang this guy from a streetlight in the center of town, and gut him like the pig it is.

No 'ffense to pigs meant...

So in other words, you're not against it.

I am generally, but these extreme cases get my blood boiling. I feel that way about child molesters, too.

There are certain categories of crimes where if guilt is clear and the crime heinous, I see no possibility of rehabilitation (or even any desire to rehabilitate - at a certain point, a crime is so heinous that even if we could rehabilitate the guy, I don't think we'd want to...).

So, in a sense you are right. But, hard cases make bad law, as they say. I can live with a world that puts this guy in a cell for the rest of his life to rot. I don't want the death penalty in most of the cases in which it is imposed, though.

So, in fact, you are in favour of the death penalty..

[Twoflower]

It's obviously time to round up all the gun owners and shoot them, just to be sure.

We can start with the registered gun owners 'cause they'll be easy to find.

Can we just ban Batman instead?

Only if we can ban your creepy avatar as well.

[Coito ergo sum]

I'm against the death penalty, but I think they should hang this guy from a streetlight in the center of town, and gut him like the pig it is.

No 'ffense to pigs meant...

So in other words, you're not against it.

I am generally, but these extreme cases get my blood boiling. I feel that way about child molesters, too.

There are certain categories of crimes where if guilt is clear and the crime heinous, I see no possibility of rehabilitation (or even any desire to rehabilitate - at a certain point, a crime is so heinous that even if we could rehabilitate the guy, I don't think we'd want to...).

So, in a sense you are right. But, hard cases make bad law, as they say. I can live with a world that puts this guy in a cell for the rest of his life to rot. I don't want the death penalty in most of the cases in which it is imposed, though.

So, in fact, you are in favour of the death penalty..

Only in the circumstance where this guy and guys like him would be the only one's put to death. However, that is a pipe dream and not a real world possibility. So, in the real world, I'm against the death penalty. In the world where we could assume that only the clearly guilty of really heinous crimes would be put to death, I would be in favor of it. But, that world doesn't exist.