Crumple wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Yeah, the study of "what the fuck happened at Dresden" actually kicked off that field of study.
All these years later it is possible to say we were led by sociopaths and are sorry. At the time just like now we had the wrong people at the helm. Probably the same with Nagasaki with you?

Absolutely not. Neither the Brits nor the Americans have anything to apologize for relative to Dresden or Nagasaki. That blame lies with the Germans and the Japanese too.
Dresden was a tragedy and regrettable, but Britain was under no obligation, moral or otherwise, to incur more casualties to avoid the total war that the Germans and Japanese started.
It's easy to say, from an armchair, that so and so was a sociopath for ordering Dresden or Nagasaki. But, frankly, neither the Germans nor the Japanese had quit at the time of those bombings. They were made to quit by efforts like that.
Dresden and Nagasaki are cause for apologies, yes, but those apologies need to come from the Germans and the Japanese, respectively. They created the need to do that. They started the total war and they would not have stopped at anything to destroy the UK and the US. We were not in any position that they were "done anyway" or "on the verge of surrendering." That is historical armchair revisionism coupled with 20-20 hindsight viewed through rose colored glasses.