I Didn’t Mean Muslim Ones!

[maiforpeace]

Warren, you're the one making the claim that there is political indoctrination of children going on in Massachussetts, in this case, that LGBT's families prominence in the current curriculum is crowding out heterosexual families and portraying them as odd and abnormal. That bigotry toward heterosexual families is openly supported by liberals in this teaching curriculum, apparently because of some anecdotal evidence of one gay teacher who was discovered to be a porn actor?

You have not provided one bit of evidence this may be true.

You honestly don't think that sounds the least bit crazed?

[cupper3]

The preponderance of lewd behavior at events such as 'gay pride' parades by participants as opposed to say, oh, almost any other type of parade, would be enough to at least formulate a hypothesis that being gay creates the proclivities towards such lewdness.

[Jason]

The preponderance of lewd behavior at events such as 'gay pride' parades by participants as opposed to say, oh, almost any other type of parade, would be enough to at least formulate a hypothesis that being gay creates the proclivities towards such lewdness.

The preponderance of lewd behaviour at events such as 'Mardi Gras' by participants as opposed to say, oh, Disney on Ice, would be enough to formulate a hypothesis that being drunk and/or in the presence of people were a feeling of uninhibited celebration prevails creates the proclivities towards such lewdness.

[hadespussercats]

The preponderance of lewd behavior at events such as 'gay pride' parades by participants as opposed to say, oh, almost any other type of parade, would be enough to at least formulate a hypothesis that being gay creates the proclivities towards such lewdness.

The preponderance of lewd behaviour at events such as 'Mardi Gras' by participants as opposed to say, oh, Disney on Ice, would be enough to formulate a hypothesis that being drunk and/or in the presence of people were a feeling of uninhibited celebration prevails creates the proclivities towards such lewdness.

Word.

Besides, parade participants are only a small portion of the gay community at large.

[JimC]

The preponderance of lewd behavior at events such as 'gay pride' parades by participants as opposed to say, oh, almost any other type of parade, would be enough to at least formulate a hypothesis that being gay creates the proclivities towards such lewdness.

What some see as lewd, others would simply see as uninhibited exuberance. If minors and/or coercion are not involved, it should be no-one else's business.

In any case, this has little to do with the assertion that educational material suggesting the superiority of a gay lifestyle is a real presence in the US school system. No evidence for such an assertion has yet emerged...

[Svartalf]

The preponderance of lewd behavior at events such as 'gay pride' parades by participants as opposed to say, oh, almost any other type of parade, would be enough to at least formulate a hypothesis that being gay creates the proclivities towards such lewdness.

The preponderance of lewd behaviour at events such as 'Mardi Gras' by participants as opposed to say, oh, Disney on Ice, would be enough to formulate a hypothesis that being drunk and/or in the presence of people were a feeling of uninhibited celebration prevails creates the proclivities towards such lewdness.

Or you could deduce that ice rink event are too cold to allow for nakedness and lewd behavior, or simply that disney are a bunch of stuck up prudes

[Tyrannical]

You're equating pedophilia and homosexuality here? Or homosexual pornography? I'm not sure, it's difficult to follow this level of fail in an attempted argument. The Catholic priest's abuse ploy is a red herring - I'm not entirely sure the matter of sexual orientation of molesters in the church has ever been investigated properly, but I believe the reason boys are favoured may have something to do with accessibility and doctrine (priests specifically prohibited from women, apparently boys can be rationalized). However, this is entirely irrelevant.

Pedophile is prepubescent, most of the priest sex abuse cases involve post pubecent boys which makes it a gay/homosexual crime. But that upsets the gays, so they try to distort the facts.

[Jason]

You're equating pedophilia and homosexuality here? Or homosexual pornography? I'm not sure, it's difficult to follow this level of fail in an attempted argument. The Catholic priest's abuse ploy is a red herring - I'm not entirely sure the matter of sexual orientation of molesters in the church has ever been investigated properly, but I believe the reason boys are favoured may have something to do with accessibility and doctrine (priests specifically prohibited from women, apparently boys can be rationalized). However, this is entirely irrelevant.

Pedophile is prepubescent, most of the priest sex abuse cases involve post pubecent boys which makes it a gay/homosexual crime. But that upsets the gays, so they try to distort the facts.

I'm not going to argue your dubious defence of an obvious red herring.

[mistermack]

Pedophile is prepubescent, most of the priest sex abuse cases involve post pubecent boys which makes it a gay/homosexual crime. But that upsets the gays, so they try to distort the facts.

It's a gay/homosexual crime, when the priest interferes with boys.
It's a straight/heterosexual crime when they interfere with girls.

I would be willing to bet that there is far more straight/heterosexual crime than gay.
Most often, it's fathers with their own daughters.
But that upsets the straights, so they try to distort the facts. Just like Tranny.

[Tyrannical]

Pedophile is prepubescent, most of the priest sex abuse cases involve post pubecent boys which makes it a gay/homosexual crime. But that upsets the gays, so they try to distort the facts.

I would be willing to bet that there is far more straight/heterosexual crime than gay.
Most often, it's fathers with their own daughters.
But that upsets the straights, so they try to distort the facts. Just like Tranny.

In raw numbers yes, but I'd be surprised if the percentage rate wasn't much higher in homosexuals.

[Robert_S]

I wouldn't be surprised if a high percentage rate of the guesses people make about stuff turn out to be wrong.

[mistermack]

In raw numbers yes, but I'd be surprised if the percentage rate wasn't much higher in homosexuals.

I might be inclined to agree with you, but I suspect that much more of the heterosexual abuse goes unreported, than the homosexual. The reason would be the self blame that many victims feel.

Boys abused by a priest are more likely to feel angry and abused, when they grow up straight.

Girls abused by their fathers have the problem of damage to the family ties, if they report it, and self guilt, in the mistaken belief that they were partly to blame.

[Hermit]

what we see is that homosexual abuse seems more common than we'd expect; for example in the case of the Catholic church scandal, a large majority of the victims were of the same sex as the abusers.

The preponderance of lewd behavior at events such as 'gay pride' parades by participants as opposed to say, oh, almost any other type of parade, would be enough to at least formulate a hypothesis that being gay creates the proclivities towards such lewdness.

Next: Proof that homosexual teachers are more likely to be paedophiles than heterosexual teachers.

[redunderthebed]

Warren-- were you saying that handouts and such by the school are where the same-sex couples are being portrayed so frequently? I'm wondering, if that's the case, is it possible, that there's been an initiative to push for parity by playing up same-sex parents because there's still so little depiction of that in textbooks and other older print sources-- especially considering that Massachusetts led the country in promoting same sex marriage, so materials made for schools nationally might not cover that.

Like a hypothetical school in Chinatown back in the day, where teachers might have tried to counteract the effect of all-white casts of people in textbooks by showing Asian families in handouts.

What do you think?

They could also do it by moving back to some Asian country where they are the majority and all the text book examples feature nice Asian families if that is soooo important to them. Non-slave descended Blacks and all other non-Whites voluntarily came to what they knew very well was a White majority nation.

Wow i have never heard the australian bogan attitude "dont like it here fuck off back to where you come from" so elequently put.

I'm not denying that in some cases political indoctrination has occurred (for example, the case where a teacher had her students do projects that were pro-Obama), but I don't consider including LGBT families in the larger narrative as being political indoctrination.

Teaching, or should I say insisting on tolerance IS indoctrination. We should be free to tolerate or abhor what we choose, especially when the new requirement of acceptance goes against established societal norms.

Wow, talk about politically correct! Now we have to tolerate the intolerant.

Welcome to the right-wing version of the civil rights movement.

The preponderance of lewd behavior at events such as 'gay pride' parades by participants as opposed to say, oh, almost any other type of parade, would be enough to at least formulate a hypothesis that being gay creates the proclivities towards such lewdness.

The preponderance of lewd behaviour at events such as 'Mardi Gras' by participants as opposed to say, oh, Disney on Ice, would be enough to formulate a hypothesis that being drunk and/or in the presence of people were a feeling of uninhibited celebration prevails creates the proclivities towards such lewdness.

Word.

Besides, parade participants are only a small portion of the gay community at large.

Correct i get the vibe talking to gay people the over the top queeny types that populate these marches (which started as a civil rights march and now is just a tourist attraction and a way for nightclub operators to make money) are treated in much of the same way as your average middle of the road christian in relation to one that is foaming at the mouth fundie.

It would only be a rather deranged minority of gay extremists that would assert that, Warren, and they can simply be ignored, or treated with appropriate derision...

Not that easy to do when you're a six year old and the deranged one is a teacher three times your size.

That sounds like a sunday school teacher making you sing yes jesus loves me this i know because the bible tells me so.

[Warren Dew]

It would only be a rather deranged minority of gay extremists that would assert that, Warren, and they can simply be ignored, or treated with appropriate derision...

Not that easy to do when you're a six year old and the deranged one is a teacher three times your size.

That sounds like a sunday school teacher making you sing yes jesus loves me this i know because the bible tells me so.

I'd object to my kids being exposed to that, too.