Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by hadespussercats » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:27 pm

mistermack wrote:There are perfectly good evolutionary reasons why we are reticent about sex, and instinctively keep it private.

Human infants are big, heavy, helpless and vulnerable, for the longest period of any species. They're a big investment for both sexes.

The male does not want to spend his life defending and providing for the young of another male.

And the female doesn't want to give away her sexual favours, without commitment from the male, to stick around, and defend and provide for her children.

Obviously, it's in the interests of both parties to cheat a bit. To attempt to have your cake, and eat it. But the instincts are to make sure that your partner remains committed.

Having sex in public is likely to invite interference from bystanders. A male would not like a bigger, stronger male to get interested enough to decide to take over.
And a female would rather other females didn't get to like the way her mate was performing, and to fancy some, when they got the chance.

So we evolved a need for privacy, to strengthen this system of one-man-one-woman bonding that served us so well.
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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by rasetsu » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:43 pm




You left out the bit about 'jealousy' and 'hell hath no fury...



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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by FBM » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:53 pm

I once witnessed a young girl, maybe 3 or so, masturbating in public at a train station in, IRRC, Butterworth, Malaysia. Apparently, she was relieving the stress caused by her older sister taking away her 2-litre bottle of Coke. Seems to me that shame at masturbation is a learned behavior, not an inborn one.
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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by mistermack » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:06 pm

FBM wrote:I once witnessed a young girl, maybe 3 or so, masturbating in public at a train station in, IRRC, Butterworth, Malaysia. Apparently, she was relieving the stress caused by her older sister taking away her 2-litre bottle of Coke. Seems to me that shame at masturbation is a learned behavior, not an inborn one.
It must run in the family.

You have to be a wanker, to give coke to a three year old.
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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by mistermack » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:09 pm

rasetsu wrote:You left out the bit about 'jealousy' and 'hell hath no fury...
I did. But it's all part of the same process.
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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by FBM » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:35 pm

mistermack wrote:
FBM wrote:I once witnessed a young girl, maybe 3 or so, masturbating in public at a train station in, IRRC, Butterworth, Malaysia. Apparently, she was relieving the stress caused by her older sister taking away her 2-litre bottle of Coke. Seems to me that shame at masturbation is a learned behavior, not an inborn one.
It must run in the family.

You have to be a wanker, to give coke to a three year old.
Well, they were English, judging by their accents. Or perhaps Aussie. Not that there's much difference. :tea:
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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by Drewish » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:56 pm

FBM wrote:It's taboo when you're a teenager, I suppose, due in great part to sexually repressive xtian brainwashing, but I understand it's not such a big deal over here in East Asia.

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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by Hermit » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:24 pm

There is only one thing worse than pop-psychology and that is evolutionary psychology. :|~
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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by mistermack » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:03 pm

Hermit wrote:There is only one thing worse than pop-psychology and that is evolutionary psychology. :|~
Behavior and psychology are different things.

A huge amount of our behavior is inherited. Such as eating and breathing, pissing, shitting, shagging and wanking.
Like it or not, that's a fact.
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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by Elessarina » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:26 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:Masturbation is a very touchy subject...

It gives me a buzz

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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by mistermack » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:31 pm

FBM wrote:
mistermack wrote:
FBM wrote:I once witnessed a young girl, maybe 3 or so, masturbating in public at a train station in, IRRC, Butterworth, Malaysia. Apparently, she was relieving the stress caused by her older sister taking away her 2-litre bottle of Coke. Seems to me that shame at masturbation is a learned behavior, not an inborn one.
It must run in the family.

You have to be a wanker, to give coke to a three year old.
Well, they were English, judging by their accents. Or perhaps Aussie. Not that there's much difference. :tea:
Plenty of wankers everywhere.
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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by PsychoSerenity » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:35 pm

mistermack wrote:
Hermit wrote:There is only one thing worse than pop-psychology and that is evolutionary psychology. :|~
Behavior and psychology are different things.

A huge amount of our behavior is inherited. Such as eating and breathing, pissing, shitting, shagging and wanking.
Like it or not, that's a fact.
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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by rachelbean » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:06 pm

mistermack wrote:There are perfectly good evolutionary reasons why we are reticent about sex, and instinctively keep it private.

Human infants are big, heavy, helpless and vulnerable, for the longest period of any species. They're a big investment for both sexes.

The male does not want to spend his life defending and providing for the young of another male.

And the female doesn't want to give away her sexual favours, without commitment from the male, to stick around, and defend and provide for her children.

Obviously, it's in the interests of both parties to cheat a bit. To attempt to have your cake, and eat it. But the instincts are to make sure that your partner remains committed.

Having sex in public is likely to invite interference from bystanders. A male would not like a bigger, stronger male to get interested enough to decide to take over.
And a female would rather other females didn't get to like the way her mate was performing, and to fancy some, when they got the chance.

So we evolved a need for privacy, to strengthen this system of one-man-one-woman bonding that served us so well.
This may explain why people in general don't have public sex, but If this had any bearing on why we don't talk about masturbation, then people wouldn't talk about sex in general, and we know that's not true.
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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by tattuchu » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:45 pm

Drewish wrote:
FBM wrote:It's taboo when you're a teenager, I suppose, due in great part to sexually repressive xtian brainwashing, but I understand it's not such a big deal over here in East Asia.

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Re: Why is masturbation such a taboo topic?

Post by rasetsu » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:38 pm




Adds a whole new meaning to the term "exit polling."



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