"A culture of Entitlement"

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"A culture of Entitlement"

Post by Audley Strange » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:45 pm

Soooo... Cameron's been bleating on again about benefit cheats and how there is "a culture of entitlement" amongst dole scum that needs to be crushed.

Now I accept there is a problem, I'm not certain as to how bad it is countrywide, but certainly where I am there are two and three generations of people who've never worked. Lazy parastical fuckers I agree, but it wasn't benefit cheats that ruined our economy.

There is a culture of entitlement that has. It's the one in our establishment. The one where media barons think they are entitled to influence policy, where financial companies can drag the country into turmoil because of bad gambling and foolish get rich quick schemes and be bailed out rather than imprisoned for financial terrorism.

There has always been a Culture of Entitlement in the U.K. It's called "The Establishment" or "The Old Boys Club." For all their faults it was something that both Thatcher and her ally Murdoch opposed until they were welcomed in.

You cannot complain about "a culture of entitlement" amongst the serf population if for the last 300 years or so they've seen it amongst the Gentry. Why should those lazy smug trust fund cunts be the only ones in the "leisure class."

You want to fix the problem, start with the Bullingdon ballbags and their plutocratic pals first, they are a much larger drain on our economy than some semi-literate layabout dragging out £400 a month if he's lucky. Deal with that and I guarantee most of the country wouldn't care if you gassed dole scum on the street like badgers. Until then the hypocrisy is fucking staggering.
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:50 am

By perfectly legal, if not altogether helpful means, some of the rich can get away with effectively paying only 1% tax. If we slash benefits for the poor, we should be able to afford to slash that to 0.5%.
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Post by MrJonno » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:18 am

Problem is the people at the bottom at pretty much right offs from the second they are born due to appalling parenting and what is effectively brain damaging them before they ever enter school . We are talking people who can barely speak outside grunts or swearing, there isnt any real manual (skiled or otherwise) work left anymore everything is service/office based.

Got a question what would you prefer someone who has spent 10 years on the dole since they left school spending another 10 years or having that same person work in the same office as you?
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Post by Tyrannical » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:07 am

Birth control should be mandatory to welfare recipients. Having (additional) children seems to be the number one cause of needing welfare, or at least it would be cheaper if they didn't breed.
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Post by Woodbutcher » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:14 pm

Everybody should be reversibly sterilized at birth. You would only be allowed to breed after you have a steady job and you can look after your progeny. One at a time. Should you lapse, you will be used for organ harvesting...
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Post by Tyrannical » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:59 pm

Woodbutcher wrote:Everybody should be reversibly sterilized at birth. You would only be allowed to breed after you have a steady job and you can look after your progeny. One at a time. Should you lapse, you will be used for organ harvesting...
Too many people in South America, Asia, and Africa. We'll have to add "it" to the water. :thinks:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:02 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:By perfectly legal, if not altogether helpful means, some of the rich can get away with effectively paying only 1% tax. If we slash benefits for the poor, we should be able to afford to slash that to 0.5%.
You have rich and poor over there?

Criminy, didn't enlightened socialism fixed all that....?

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:07 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:By perfectly legal, if not altogether helpful means, some of the rich can get away with effectively paying only 1% tax. If we slash benefits for the poor, we should be able to afford to slash that to 0.5%.
You have rich and poor over there?

Criminy, didn't enlightened socialism fixed all that....?
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Re: "A culture of Entitlement"

Post by surreptitious57 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:17 pm

I would not have a problem appearing on Jeremy Kyle : the studio would
be full of taxpayers : when asked why I do nothing I would stay silent
I would have him tell me how necessary it is to do something what
ever it is as doing nothing is not an option : I would stay silent
after that too : there would be absolutely no argument from
me : my job would be just to listen and this would be an
excellent exercise in self restraint and rightly so : no
longer justify what I do or do not do though rather
just reference the facts : I allow others to pass
judgement : after all it is their taxes which
pay my bills so I should be more grateful
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Post by Tyrannical » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:19 pm

Manor and servant upkeep is money right into the local economy. Even better if you don't employ the low wage coloured and insist on paying for only quality people. :prof:

Since most of the rich do not swim in vaults of their money, much of it gets invested in industry that employs people. Even Scrooge McDuck made his money through industry and did not like banking. He even found it an insult :hehe:
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:21 pm

Jeremy Kyle is an obnoxious slug much deserving of a pinch of salt.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:37 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:By perfectly legal, if not altogether helpful means, some of the rich can get away with effectively paying only 1% tax. If we slash benefits for the poor, we should be able to afford to slash that to 0.5%.
You have rich and poor over there?

Criminy, didn't enlightened socialism fixed all that....?
The rich are always with us.
Kind of make socialism pointless, then.

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Re: "A culture of Entitlement"

Post by surreptitious57 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:06 am

Every one should contribute to the economy if they are mentally and physically capable of doing so : there
should be automatic compulsory work programmes for all the unemployed so that even those who spend
a significant proportion of their lives on benefit are earning their keep no matter how so : this would
then guarantee that no one is completely without a regular salary in doing absolutely nothing : now
problem appears to be that there is not the infra structure for such a programme though : would
be expensive and require regulation and moderation like running a business though that is the
practical solution to the problem nonetheless : I do not work though make use of my time by
studying : no excuse for anyone doing absolutely nothing though : that is a waste of a life
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Re: "A culture of Entitlement"

Post by surreptitious57 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:52 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:
The rich are always with us
Kind of makes socialism pointless then
Yes and no : the moral position to adopt here is one of desired universal equality where by everyone has a fair
crack of the whip so that even those at the bottom have a reasonable standard of living : anything else just
fantasy : you will never have a completely egalitarian society : even political systems which have equality
as de rigeur such as communism still have a hierarchical pyramid structure like any other : so the best
position to adopt therefore is a meritocracy that recognises inequality of capability though practices
equality of opportunity and is how liberal democracies function as pertains to individual potential
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Re: "A culture of Entitlement"

Post by JimC » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:26 am

surreptitious57 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:
The rich are always with us
Kind of makes socialism pointless then
Yes and no : the moral position to adopt here is one of desired universal equality where by everyone has a fair
crack of the whip so that even those at the bottom have a reasonable standard of living : anything else just
fantasy : you will never have a completely egalitarian society : even political systems which have equality
as de rigeur such as communism still have a hierarchical pyramid structure like any other : so the best
position to adopt therefore is a meritocracy that recognises inequality of capability though practices
equality of opportunity and is how liberal democracies function as pertains to individual potential
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