Gigapixel cameras on the market in 5 years?

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Gigapixel cameras on the market in 5 years?

Post by FBM » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:13 am

Somebody thinks it's going to happen...I'm going to start saving up now...

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Megapixel Camera? Try Gigapixel

ScienceDaily (June 20, 2012) — By synchronizing 98 tiny cameras in a single device, electrical engineers from Duke University and the University of Arizona have developed a prototype camera that can create images with unprecedented detail.

The camera's resolution is five times better than 20/20 human vision over a 120 degree horizontal field.

The new camera has the potential to capture up to 50 gigapixels of data, which is 50,000 megapixels. By comparison, most consumer cameras are capable of taking photographs with sizes ranging from 8 to 40 megapixels. Pixels are individual "dots" of data -- the higher the number of pixels, the better resolution of the image.

The researchers believe that within five years, as the electronic components of the cameras become miniaturized and more efficient, the next generation of gigapixel cameras should be available to the general public.
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Post by Robert_S » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:20 am

Watch 'em face budget cuts and be forced to slap a cheap lens on the end of it rendering 75% of the pixels irrelevant.
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:30 am

I'll be stickin' with my 6 mp for now. :biggrin:
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:36 am

With 32 bit color, that gives an uncompressed image size of 200GB per picture.
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Post by FBM » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:40 am

Thing is, I don't think many of current top-of-the-line lenses could render that kind of image. I bet we'll be forced to buy special lenses that cost twice as much as the camera. I'm with Jack. I'll just keep fiddling around with what I have. It's not like photography is my career or anything. ;)
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Post by Robert_S » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:49 am

FBM wrote:Thing is, I don't think many of current top-of-the-line lenses could render that kind of image. I bet we'll be forced to buy special lenses that cost twice as much as the camera. I'm with Jack. I'll just keep fiddling around with what I have. It's not like photography is my career or anything. ;)
And to print out an image that large... I don't think Wallgreens can handle that.
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:03 am

Tyrannical wrote:With 32 bit color, that gives an uncompressed image size of 200GB per picture.
What the fuck are you supposed to store these images on? - That's nearly the size of my computer hard drive! :shock:
FBM wrote:Thing is, I don't think many of current top-of-the-line lenses could render that kind of image. I bet we'll be forced to buy special lenses that cost twice as much as the camera. I'm with Jack. I'll just keep fiddling around with what I have. It's not like photography is my career or anything. ;)
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And the other stuff that'll be needed, like humungus memory cards, etc.
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:44 am

Storage is on the cusp of a technological driven expansion, these things are likely to run in parallel. Although using uranium it is likely to be cloud based storage, then manipulation of these size images will maybe benefit from online computation capablities too? :smoke:

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JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:With 32 bit color, that gives an uncompressed image size of 200GB per picture.
What the fuck are you supposed to store these images on? - That's nearly the size of my computer hard drive! :shock:
FBM wrote:Thing is, I don't think many of current top-of-the-line lenses could render that kind of image. I bet we'll be forced to buy special lenses that cost twice as much as the camera. I'm with Jack. I'll just keep fiddling around with what I have. It's not like photography is my career or anything. ;)
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And the other stuff that'll be needed, like humungus memory cards, etc.
Holographic crystal-based storage the size of a sugar-cube that can hold petabytes of data.

At 150-200 megapixels, digital resolution will exceed that of the best film ever made.

However, digital images will never be able to scale the same way a negative does because of the rectilinear nature of the digital chip versus the random nature of film grain. And at some point, you start having quantum effects and difficulty with resolution because the pixel spacing is smaller than the wavelength of the light.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:08 am

Oooh, the best camera in civilian use. Sweet.

I scanned the OP quickly for one piece of info, which was there. The human eye sees about 198 MP. When I was at Purdue they were talking about the first megapixel cameras and estimating it would be about 100 years before the camera could match the human eye. I'll tick that one off the list of over-estimates now.

Now they need to teach the camera to fudge things like the human eye does.
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Post by Schneibster » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:43 am

I got a 24MP Sony Alpha a77 a couple weeks back. I've had it out in the backyard, but I have a band thing going and just can't seem to get away to the Jetty. Soon, though. Soon. The cat pix I've taken are awesome.
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Post by mistermack » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:03 am

I can't see the application for that quality. Not for printing out anyway. If the printers can't print it, there's no point in it. And for viewing on a monitor, the monitor quality would have to be just as much increased.

The only benefit I can see is for being able to zoom in to an image. That would be nice, but I can't see a big market for that.

I never use the top quality on my camera or scanner now. The files are too big, and you can't see a difference.
The cameras will be to far ahead of the supporting technology, I think.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:12 am

mistermack wrote:I can't see the application for that quality. Not for printing out anyway. If the printers can't print it, there's no point in it. And for viewing on a monitor, the monitor quality would have to be just as much increased.

The only benefit I can see is for being able to zoom in to an image. That would be nice, but I can't see a big market for that.

I never use the top quality on my camera or scanner now. The files are too big, and you can't see a difference.
The cameras will be to far ahead of the supporting technology, I think.
You can take that image and project it on photographic quality paper to make a hard image. That's basically what they do with film cameras, shine the negative onto a piece of paper.
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Post by mistermack » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:04 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote: You can take that image and project it on photographic quality paper to make a hard image. That's basically what they do with film cameras, shine the negative onto a piece of paper.
What I mean is though, how often does the average man look at an image that is not detailed enough, because of the camera?

Most people have printers that print A4 max. Bigger ones are expensive, and don't justify the cost for most people. And if they are going to go for technology that uses photographic paper, as above, that will be expensive, even if it's feasible in a home machine.

I think still images have pretty well gone as far as most people want. I can't remember the last time I looked at a still image, and thought "that camera needs more pixels". As I said, I never use the full quality. I can't tell the difference on any of MY kit.

You might think, "that printer isn't very good" or, that monitor isn't great. But unless you are zooming in to tiny detail, it's practically impossible to fault what a 7 mp camera can do.

Video is different, of course. Video cameras still have a long way to go, but that's a totally different ball-game.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:09 pm

Well, you're not going to avoid "Pixel Envy" in the market easily until they get to ridiculous levels and there's revolt. When imagery exceed human visual acuity persistently the need for increased resolution will be come a moot point and they'll actually start working on improving the cameras themselves.
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