
Parasitic capitalists - a point to ponder.
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Fuck the poor, they have no power or they'd be rich.
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Re: Parasitic capitalists - a point to ponder.
Kill 'em. They're a waste of space.Gawdzilla wrote:Fuck the poor, they have no power or they'd be rich.
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Start with my parents, an abandoned 11 year old boy and a "mother" to five siblings when she was eight. Lazy bastards should have been born rich so I could be dictating this post instead of typing it. (Me be JOB CREATORMAN!)maiforpeace wrote:Kill 'em. They're a waste of space.Gawdzilla wrote:Fuck the poor, they have no power or they'd be rich.
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Can we at least get rid of the "unsuccessful" parasites? Those non-workers that drain a working society through welfare and other benefits while never contributing?
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.
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You want "lumpen proletariat" there.Tyrannical wrote:Can we at least get rid of the "unsuccessful" parasites? Those non-workers that drain a working society through welfare and other benefits while never contributing?
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Is that what the commies call the millions that Stalin and Mao had executed?Gawdzilla wrote:You want "lumpen proletariat" there.Tyrannical wrote:Can we at least get rid of the "unsuccessful" parasites? Those non-workers that drain a working society through welfare and other benefits while never contributing?

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I am beginning to grasp your level of involvement here.Tyrannical wrote:Is that what the commies call the millions that Stalin and Mao had executed?Gawdzilla wrote:You want "lumpen proletariat" there.Tyrannical wrote:Can we at least get rid of the "unsuccessful" parasites? Those non-workers that drain a working society through welfare and other benefits while never contributing?
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The profit motive is the only driver of the ruling class at the moment. There was a period where the benevolent largess of a few rich people was spent on making the lot of those they exploited a little better. No longer however except in a few exceptional cases.
The profit motive sees greater and greater competition to reduce staff costs and currently the developed world is in a race to reduce its costs to compete with the newly emerging economies. That will result in increasing poverty for ordinary people in the developed world as more and more people are thrown out of work or take very poorly paid jobs.
Of course capitalism has its own in built contradictions, one of which is that it destroys its own markets by doing this.
Governments will try to keep social order in the face of the above, but in due course the people will revolt again. Marxism is not dead - not by a long way.
The profit motive sees greater and greater competition to reduce staff costs and currently the developed world is in a race to reduce its costs to compete with the newly emerging economies. That will result in increasing poverty for ordinary people in the developed world as more and more people are thrown out of work or take very poorly paid jobs.
Of course capitalism has its own in built contradictions, one of which is that it destroys its own markets by doing this.
Governments will try to keep social order in the face of the above, but in due course the people will revolt again. Marxism is not dead - not by a long way.
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And then eat them!maiforpeace wrote:Kill 'em. They're a waste of space.Gawdzilla wrote:Fuck the poor, they have no power or they'd be rich.

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I don't agree with by any means everything George Orwell wrote, but didn't somebody in 1984 say, "If there is hope for the future, it lies with the proles."
I'm going to have yet another go at this, hoping I can keep my temper if arseholes wrench my thoughts out of all recognition, and then make offensive personal attacks on me under the guise of "reason".
I hope that humanity is working towards a state in which we can all get on together motivated by altruism, and not (as at present) by materialism. Marxism was an attempt at that, and sadly its principles were perverted by totalitarians in failed societies such as the USSR. And I don't know how it can be implemented, but I believe it's the only way there can be genuine hope for humanity. No god, and nobody wanting more than they need, and everybody working for others.
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I'm going to have yet another go at this, hoping I can keep my temper if arseholes wrench my thoughts out of all recognition, and then make offensive personal attacks on me under the guise of "reason".
I hope that humanity is working towards a state in which we can all get on together motivated by altruism, and not (as at present) by materialism. Marxism was an attempt at that, and sadly its principles were perverted by totalitarians in failed societies such as the USSR. And I don't know how it can be implemented, but I believe it's the only way there can be genuine hope for humanity. No god, and nobody wanting more than they need, and everybody working for others.
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What I said.Hermit wrote:Just waiting for Seth.
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John_fi_Skye wrote:I don't agree with by any means everything George Orwell wrote, but didn't somebody in 1984 say, "If there is hope for the future, it lies with the proles."
I'm going to have yet another go at this, hoping I can keep my temper if arseholes wrench my thoughts out of all recognition, and then make offensive personal attacks on me under the guise of "reason".
I hope that humanity is working towards a state in which we can all get on together motivated by altruism, and not (as at present) by materialism. Marxism was an attempt at that, and sadly its principles were perverted by totalitarians in failed societies such as the USSR. And I don't know how it can be implemented, but I believe it's the only way there can be genuine hope for humanity. No god, and nobody wanting more than they need, and everybody working for others.
"Man tae man, the warld owre, shall brithers be, for aa that."
Exactly why I am a Marxist, however 'neo' I may be.
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We - be - long - to - a - myoo - choo - alRum wrote:John_fi_Skye wrote:I don't agree with by any means everything George Orwell wrote, but didn't somebody in 1984 say, "If there is hope for the future, it lies with the proles."
I'm going to have yet another go at this, hoping I can keep my temper if arseholes wrench my thoughts out of all recognition, and then make offensive personal attacks on me under the guise of "reason".
I hope that humanity is working towards a state in which we can all get on together motivated by altruism, and not (as at present) by materialism. Marxism was an attempt at that, and sadly its principles were perverted by totalitarians in failed societies such as the USSR. And I don't know how it can be implemented, but I believe it's the only way there can be genuine hope for humanity. No god, and nobody wanting more than they need, and everybody working for others.
"Man tae man, the warld owre, shall brithers be, for aa that."
Exactly why I am a Marxist, however 'neo' I may be.
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Pray, do not mock me: I am a very foolish fond old man; And, to deal plainly, I fear I am not in my perfect mind.
Blah blah blah blah blah!
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Life is glorious.
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